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Inductive charging is the future. I feel it is the path to EV ownership for renters and people without garages.
I'm confused, isn't the problem that you need to run a 240V line to where the car is going to be charged? It's the electrical work on the building that is the hurdle for renters and driveways. An inductive pad is still going to need to connect to a 240V line whether it's hard-wired or whether through like a NEMA 14-50 plug...
 

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I'm confused, isn't the problem that you need to run a 240V line to where the car is going to be charged? It's the electrical work on the building that is the hurdle for renters and driveways. An inductive pad is still going to need to connect to a 240V line whether it's hard-wired or whether through like a NEMA 14-50 plug...
It solves the problem of WHERE the charger is. A pad once wire has been laid can be put anywhere for EV owners to just drive over. An apartment complex could have 20 (EV pad) parking spaces with smart controllers. Turn on pad 1 for apart 316. Apartment 316 has a dedicated charger for their unit/car. If the chargers are not being used ANY car can take the parking spot. Pretty simple.
 

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Inductive charging is the future. I feel it is the path to EV ownership for renters and people without garages.
So the city is going to just install them in the street? City wide roll out coming in 2075. I think for the first 5 years it will mostly be people that can afford a $2500 charger vs. a $500 charger installing them in their garages and driveways because they don't want to have to physically make the effort of plugging in their vehicle. I build a ton of apartments. Thousands of units. You should hear these owners complaining about even having to put in EV chargers and the intense amount of power required. I dont see any of them voluntarily opting for more costly induction charging any time soon. Our expensive condo projects may opt to install them or allow their tenants to install them but again that will be on the luxury end.

I do agree that the future is induction. In 2075 the local governments will catch on and probably start rolling them out in the streets and half of them won't work. I can afford a $2500 charger and i am lazy so i will probably have one sooner than later. My wife will probably claim it though. Such is the circle of life.

The new structural packs seem ripe for induction because the battery cells float on a sheet of micah isolation material on the bottom. it would seem like they could lay down some induction coils down there without much reengineering of the pack.

You would think this would be an extremely easy system to design. I wonder why tesla is not all over this already and implementing it in current models. I suppose the induction coils will add weight which is very much in the opposite direction of Teslas goals right now.

Gus, if you read all this I applaud and thank you.
 

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It solves the problem of WHERE the charger is. A pad once wire has been laid can be put anywhere for EV owners to just drive over. An apartment complex could have 20 (EV pad) parking spaces with smart controllers. Turn on pad 1 for apart 316. Apartment 316 has a dedicated charger for their unit/car. If the chargers are not being used ANY car can take the parking spot. Pretty simple.
Thats the same with a cable charger. The cable charger and an induction charger have very similar constraints. Almost anywhere you can put an induction pad you can put a wall connector on a pedestal.
 


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So the city is going to just install them in the street? City wide roll out coming in 2075. I think for the first 5 years it will mostly be people that can afford a $2500 charger vs. a $500 charger installing them in their garages and driveways because they don't want to have to physically make the effort of plugging in their vehicle. I build a ton of apartments. Thousands of units. You should hear these owners complaining about even having to put in EV chargers and the intense amount of power required. I dont see any of them voluntarily opting for more costly induction charging any time soon. Our expensive condo projects may opt to install them or allow their tenants to install them but again that will be on the luxury end.

I do agree that the future is induction. In 2075 the local governments will catch on and probably start rolling them out in the streets and half of them won't work. I can afford a $2500 charger and i am lazy so i will probably have one sooner than later. My wife will probably claim it though. Such is the circle of life.

The new structural packs seem ripe for induction because the battery cells float on a sheet of micah isolation material on the bottom. it would seem like they could lay down some induction coils down there without much reengineering of the pack.

You would think this would be an extremely easy system to design. I wonder why tesla is not all over this already and implementing it in current models. I suppose the induction coils will add weight which is very much in the opposite direction of Teslas goals right now.

Gus, if you read all this I applaud and thank you.
Yes

https://www.carscoops.com/2023/12/new-florida-toll-road-will-charge-evs-as-they-drive/
 

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I hate to be a nay-sayer, but I could only see this happening on something like a fasttrack lane where you're paying for it
Oh of course, all kinds of interesting market outcomes!


For the incredulous, this isn't pie-in-sky - Tesla would be far from the only company developing this.

Currently, several pilot projects already exist around the world.

Here's one Ford, Electreon, Michigan Department of Transportation, and Next Era have in process.



So the city is going to just install them in the street?

In part, yes.

The company Tesla purchased to acquire this IP already had retrofitted Tesla's with these systems, and have/had several pilot charge stations running them.

Not to overstate, obviously these are early stage tech and only pilots, but there's more going on out there than meets the eye.



IN TERMS OF THINKING AROUND CORNERS:

Who is going to charge robotaxi's (whether Tesla's or others?)

A queue of robotaxi's sitting at an airport for hours on end can be charging, and not need to return to a homebase for connective charging intervention.

Similarly, buses in bus lanes, or at a stop

So, this kind of system makes sense above all in urban transport where speeds aren't too high.



And needs to be pointed out

The payoff here isn't merely an alternative to plugging in.

With these types of systems, an eg robotaxi needs only a much smaller, lighter, cheaper battery

Same for busses, etc.


Point being, the ecosystem of inductive being installed in roads, etc., isn't merely an added feature at added cost. It also replaces many current constraints and costs.
 
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Parking lots is an amazing idea, I'd love to park in Costco and it tops me off while I shop and wolf down unhealthy amounts of hot dogs.
 
 




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