Tesla is selling superchargers to BP

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That's pretty sick!

I would expect them to have some sort of plug and play with Teslas. Other membership for others.

Was plug and play one of the criteria for the subsidies? Or was that being a part of the one app to rule them all? Either way, it should hopefully be intuitive.
 

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That's pretty sick!

I would expect them to have some sort of plug and play with Teslas. Other membership for others.

Was plug and play one of the criteria for the subsidies? Or was that being a part of the one app to rule them all? Either way, it should hopefully be intuitive.
No, plug and play wasn't, though it was supported.

It depends highly upon the service component of the charging company, so there's no way to know if it'll work or not. Certainly it will have the hardware capability, but...

It wasn't 'one app to rule them all' so much as 'you need to allow other apps to view your status/pay with'.

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No, plug and play wasn't, though it was supported.

It depends highly upon the service component of the charging company, so there's no way to know if it'll work or not. Certainly it will have the hardware capability, but...

It wasn't 'one app to rule them all' so much as 'you need to allow other apps to view your status/pay with'.

-Crissa
The data is half the payment
 

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The BP Press release says that these WILL support plug and charge and that they will be featured in the Tesla UI in the vehicle. Do not expect them at most ARCO / BP Stations, however. BP is wise enough to know that these are best suited for big footprint sites:

The roll-out is planned to begin in 2024 and locations will include key sites across the bp family of brands, including TravelCenters of America, Thorntons, ampm; and Amoco, as well as at bp pulse’s large-scale Gigahub™ charging sites in major metropolitan areas and at third-party locations, such as Hertz locations, as part of previously announced collaborations. The first installation sites have been identified in Houston, Phoenix, Los Angeles, Chicago; and Washington D.C.

https://www.bp.com/en/global/corpor...ollar-order-of-tesla-ultra-fast-chargers.html
 


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This is VERY interesting! This could be the start of a whole nother business for Tesla. BP is probably thinking why not install EV charging at some of our gas stations. They have 7,100 stations. I remember seeing where Tesla installs their chargers for less than half the cost of others.

If BP adds charging on their properties, other companies could jump on that also. And why wouldn't Tesla want to sell charging to them too.

Think about this. Those gas stations have convenience stores that bring in profits. As more people buy EVs, those people don't come to that business, UNLESS they have charging available too. :unsure:
 
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Not so significant for Tesla bottom line, its a drop in the ocean, but fantastic for the overall charging network.

Fuel stations are installing chargers already, but BP's announcement seems like a serious acceleration. Hopefully BP Australia follows suit.

BP has 1400 service stations here, and many of those are sprinkled in North Qld, Darwin and Broom.

Some of BP's locations are in places which are not part by our National highway project, and I don't see Tesla getting there anytime soon. Other installers seem to be concentration mainly in population centers.

If this is a sign of things to come, inland routes across AU will be covered faster than anticipated.
 
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This is VERY interesting! This could be the start of a whole nother business for Tesla. BP is probably thinking why not install EV charging at some of our gas stations. They have 7,100 stations. I remember seeing where Tesla installs their chargers for less than half the cost of others.

If BP adds charging on their properties, other companies could jump on that also. And why wouldn't Tesla want to sell charging to them too.

Think about this. Those gas stations have convenience stores that bring in profits. As more people buy EVs, those people don't come to that business, UNLESS they have charging available too. :unsure:
Gas stations are typically designed for faster flow of customers and many of them don’t have enough land to serve both ICE and many EVs. I have seen some in Canada that have two slower (50 KW) chargers on the side. But for serious service BP will have to select sites that are already large, expand the site or find new locations.

All that said if the non-Tesla consumer experience at these locations is anything close to what Tesla owners have, this is a very positive development for electrification.
 

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Gas stations are typically designed for faster flow of customers and many of them don’t have enough land to serve both ICE and many EVs. I have seen some in Canada that have two slower (50 KW) chargers on the side. But for serious service BP will have to select sites that are already large, expand the site or find new locations.

All that said if the non-Tesla consumer experience at these locations is anything close to what Tesla owners have, this is a very positive development for electrification.
Unlikely that many will be on existing gasoline retail sites. They are too small, they do not have a backcourt that supports it, and most importantly they are not wired to deal with large power loads. Also, while BP does own some of its stations (unlike any of the other oil companies in the US who own almost none of their branded stations) many are still owned by third parties so BP has not rights whatsoever. I expect they will focus on the small number of large travelcenters and some big new sites. I figure the deal covers around 3,000 plugs or so ($30k per plug excluding installation). That should translate into around 200 - 300 locations (+/-).
 

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This is VERY interesting! This could be the start of a whole nother business for Tesla. BP is probably thinking why not install EV charging at some of our gas stations. They have 7,100 stations. I remember seeing where Tesla installs their chargers for less than half the cost of others.

If BP adds charging on their properties, other companies could jump on that also. And why wouldn't Tesla want to sell charging to them too.

Think about this. Those gas stations have convenience stores that bring in profits. As more people buy EVs, those people don't come to that business, UNLESS they have charging available too. :unsure:
Just looked this up yesterday, in TExas, they were at 1/5th of the cost of others.

https://electrek.co/2022/04/15/tesl...show that Tesla,paying to deploy new stations.
 


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Sounds good for cooperation of increased deployment of charger locations and options, and I think the renderings of the BP logo on them look all right. Part of me feels that the TESLA name should still be on the charger stand somewhere, even if in some smaller lettering or in the corner or something. I think it should be remembered who made this possible, but rebranding of the charger stand can make people forget or be totally oblivious to Tesla's contributions in the first place. But on the other hand, it's still a source of revenue for Tesla.

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Sounds good for cooperation of increased deployment of charger locations and options, and I think the renderings of the BP sunburst on them look all right. Part of me feels that the TESLA name should still be on the charger stand somewhere, even if in some smaller lettering or in the corner or something. I think it should be remembered who made this possible, but rebranding of the charger stand can make people forget or be totally oblivious to Tesla's contributions in the first place. But on the other hand, it's still a source of revenue for Tesla.

- ÆCIII
If TESLA does not fully manage the network and user experience is sucky, TESLA probably would not want their name on it.
 

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BP getting that gubment $$ (Tesla indirect fractional beneficiary)

BP’s got a bunch of large-scale interstate truck stop locations with space, prime for that gubment $

redpill: government subsidies doing as intended​

bluepill: entitlement spending to big oil​
 

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When I read that story. Some things didn't add up. The fund giving out the money has the name "Volkswagen" attached to it. Tesla gave a bid at 1/5th the cost, but got nothing. 🤔
 
 




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