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This made me laugh... pressing the stick up is hardly any "effort and energy". But, yeah, it's not where it needs to be quite yet but I enjoy those long stretches where I feel more free to look around at my surroundings while "driving".and how much more effort and energy is required from him to be ready to take over. And we are both entertained by the exercise when Im in the car.
Not sure whether you are being serious here or not but I will point out that for us older guys whose reaction times are no longer so great the nervous tension that comes with autopilot is pretty stressfull. I suppose it would be similar to what one would experience in supervising his teenage daughter diving his brand new, super expensive, luxury car down the freeway for the first time in heavy traffic. And my passenger is not at all entertained when this happens. She shrieks, then asks me whether I did that or Christine (the car's name) did that and then tells me to turn it off.P.S. A friend of mine just got his Tesla, and can't believe how terrible Auto pilot is. Its annoying how often it suddenly abandons duties and how much more effort and energy is required from him to be ready to take over. And we are both entertained by the exercise when Im in the car.
Sycophant Alert :You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. You are just circulating nonsense that you could pick up anywhere. The strategy that TESLA is employing in software, hardware, fleet data collection and AI have NO competitor. Talk to somebody who really has one, and do some research into the technical details of what they are actually developing.
Somebody that can land a "stick" falling from space can achieve anything, and my model 3 is effin amazing (no phantom braking, and doing pretty well on A roads in UK) Most of the trouble I have is the EU legal limitations on the platform, which is slowly being adapted with speed reduction workarounds. Latest version of software can recognise unsignposted give-way intersections in UK and I have no idea what cues it is taking !
I have been watching the FSD system improve for a year now and am very impressed with the progress. Cannot wait for the 4D core AI rewrite though !
If you look at it that way (the level 5 in a controlled geofenced environment.) then everyone is 100 Years behind ( we have been doing the controlled conditions BS since the 1920's . It's always been possible under controlled (Known) conditions.) Personally, I think the missing link here in this article is that the hardware is just part of the story, Tesla did not go down the rout of development under controlled conditions). Tesla's approach was and is to use existing vehicle video data to teach the hardware. Hardware 3's capability in terms of the neural net learning is Vastly superior to their previous hardware which used of the shelf silicone. No one else is doing this. NO ONE. also, from Hardware 3 onwards, it will be much harder for their software to be stolen ( as it has been by employees that have been pouched by other startups. I am confidant that my Cyber truck with full self driving ( when I eventually get it) will be ahead of any other automaker at the time by at least 3 to 5 years. " Shut up and take my money Tesla"Tesla is at Level 2 autonomy ! That's not 6 years ahead of anything or anybody !
The fact is other company's are at level 3 and a couple are at level 5 in a controlled geofenced environment.
So in no way, shape or form, can it be declared Tesla is 6 years ahead !
While the race for Level 5 unqualified full autonomy continues.
They may one day get to level 5 full autonomy, I certainly hope they do, but to suggest they are 6 years ahead, like its a metric that can be quantified like that, is sheer absurdity, ignorance, or sycophancy.
Elon frequently mislabels these levels. No Current Tesla will reach level 5 because they all have steering wheels. Level 4 is Autonomous allowing for I some edge cases requiring intervention, level 5 is Autonomous without the ability for direct intervention from a passenger except for a emergency stop. Specifically not having a steering wheel or control pedals.just my opinion but when Elon mentioned level 5 this or next year it was like a baby announcement. The baby needs to learn but it is a level 5 baby not a level 2 baby. This will be an interesting topic in a few years, until then keep your eyes on the road and hands on the wheels.
Level 5: Steering wheel optionalElon frequently mislabels these levels. No Current Tesla will reach level 5 because they all have steering wheels. Level 4 is Autonomous allowing for I some edge cases requiring intervention, level 5 is Autonomous without the ability for direct intervention from a passenger except for a emergency stop. Specifically not having a steering wheel or control pedals.
So, current Model S 3 X Y “might” reach level 4 by year end but I highly doubt many owners will be removing the steering wheel and/or Pedals from their cars to make them level 5.
... maybe the ' no apparent reason ' was a near accident 'your friend' wasn't even aware of.....since driving numbers show that engaged autopilot cars are in 10x fewer accidents.WOW that is fantastic news.
We should expect our Robotaxi's any day now
You should start holding your breath
As already mentioned, others have already reached level 5 with conditions.
(but still far from available to the market, much to the relief of Uber and others)
So suggesting Tesla is also at level 5 in an unreleased version, is actually once again meaningless.
And that's if you believe that they are actually there. It is in fact unverified, where as for other contenders it is actually verified.
Level 2 capable, is what the cars are sold as, and are defended as, in court cases, especially the last one, just a couple of weeks ago, they lost in Germany, and can no longer use the label
"Full Self Driving". That suggests there're going backwards !
Other country's and court cases are now coming up.
"When they finally reach close, just close, to level 5 Autonomy, not actually Level 5 autonomy,
then the March of 9's will commence and it will take quite some time from there.
P.S. A friend of mine just got his Tesla, and can't believe how terrible Auto pilot is. Its annoying how often it suddenly abandons duties and how much more effort and energy is required from him to be ready to take over. And we are both entertained by the exercise when Im in the car.
Oh' and then there's the shock of it doing something severe and without reason, like applying the brakes hard when on the freeway, for no apparent reason . . . . which sometimes causes accident or they are narrowly avoided, but it works wonders for the driver and occupants mental state
No.Thus being at Level 5 within a geofence is a contradiction.
Apparently you don't understand what geofencing is. It's a geographical limit of operations.Apparently you don't understand what geofencing is.
Weird. You're still pedantic and wrong.You could have easily looked this up for yourself but...