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I've heard from a Tesla employee that a car for sale with a 0-60 in under 3 seconds makes the insurance rate way higher. In a way to work around this I believe Tesla will update the listing to 3 seconds for the tri motor CT.

I have a CT Tri-motor reservation and I hope they do this. I'd rather save money on insurance than get .2 seconds faster.

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I've heard from a Tesla employee that a car for sale with a 0-60 in under 3 seconds makes the insurance rate way higher. In a way to work around this I believe Tesla will update the listing to 3 seconds for the tri motor CT.

I have a CT Tri-motor reservation and I hope they do this. I'd rather save money on insurance than get .2 seconds faster.

Any thoughts?
I'm just getting Tesla insurance. They won't ping their own product. Case closed. peace
 
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I'm just getting Tesla insurance. They won't ping their own product. Case closed. peace
So you're assuming by the time you get your CT, Tesla insurance will be available to everyone in the United States.

What about someone who doesn't live in the U.S.?
 

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So you're assuming by the time you get your CT, Tesla insurance will be available to everyone in the United States.

What about someone who doesn't live in the U.S.?
Don't know... I worry about my needs... I would recommend you do the same, with respect to your own needs, that is. haha peace
 

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There are lots of rumors of under rating horsepower of muscle cars in the 60's-70's.
I wonder how Tesla Insurance rates will be affected by looking at the data. I think if Tesla went through the data and adjusted rates, all the other insurance companies would be pissed. Good/safe drivers would go to Tesla and drivers that like to play with that power would avoid Tesla and only go to other insurers.
 

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There are lots of rumors of under rating horsepower of muscle cars in the 60's-70's.
I wonder how Tesla Insurance rates will be affected by looking at the data. I think if Tesla went through the data and adjusted rates, all the other insurance companies would be pissed. Good/safe drivers would go to Tesla and drivers that like to play with that power would avoid Tesla and only go to other insurers.
Actually, mfgrs played straight. You could take a Chev 327 ~265 bhp stock and get a decent insurance rate. Then order Chev parts at your dealership. 302 Z-28 202 valves, .0020/.0020 solid lifter camshaft, headers and non-ventilated points. Next weekend you’d be putting down 375bhp. That’s how us country boys rolled.

We never let on that we balanced the rotating mass, ported the heads and slipped .005 over bearings into the block. Mfgrs had all the performance parts back then- no third party go-fast necessary.
 

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I'm just getting Tesla insurance. They won't ping their own product. Case closed. peace
And Tesla insurance is only offered in 1/3 of the states currently. Hope the expand coverage!
 

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There are lots of rumors of under rating horsepower of muscle cars in the 60's-70's.
I wonder how Tesla Insurance rates will be affected by looking at the data. I think if Tesla went through the data and adjusted rates, all the other insurance companies would be pissed. Good/safe drivers would go to Tesla and drivers that like to play with that power would avoid Tesla and only go to other insurers.
The OEMs are still under rating HP for that exact reason.

My buddy purchased a new Corvette and immediately put it on a dyno. It got 75hp more HP than advertised at the wheels!

Porsche is super famous for under rating their performance numbers.

Hell, in the 90's the Japaneses auto makers agreed to not sell cars making something over like 258hp..........
 

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The OEMs are still under rating HP for that exact reason.

My buddy purchased a new Corvette and immediately put it on a dyno. It got 75hp more HP than advertised at the wheels!

Porsche is super famous for under rating their performance numbers.

Hell, in the 90's the Japaneses auto makers agreed to not sell cars making something over like 258hp..........
Mach-e takes this one step further. Selling HP (750) then electronically reigning its ponies by abstracting the wet meat out of the product.
 

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Mach-e takes this one step further. Selling HP (750) then electronically reigning its ponies by abstracting the wet meat out of the product.
Oh I'm sure it goes both ways!!!
 

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Mach-e takes this one step further. Selling HP (750) then electronically reigning its ponies by abstracting the wet meat out of the product.
Electric motors produce max torque around 0RPM, and then the torque peters out as the RPM increases (though there are some sweet spots along the way).

The electric motor torque curve is such that even the smallest electric motors can smoke the tires.

Hybrids and EVs have fantastic torque control, because even the most humble of EVs can do a burnout without traction control:

You don't need a big electric motor to do this, because the torque characteristics are so different from (stallable) ICE engines.

The reason for the crazy high horsepower/torque/acceleration numbers is that making the motor bigger allows them to omit the transmission from the design -- and just use a fixed reduction gear to match the motor to the wheels.

The marketing people, of course, will run with the numbers, and can't be bothered explain the engineering tradeoffs of this design.

Put all of this together, and any EV will manage its torque to avoid smoking the tires. Not because you're being stiffed, but because of the physical limits of traction and the likelihood of exceeding those limits without the electronic nannies.
 

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Oh I'm sure it goes both ways!!!
Skeptical. Right to repair, telemetrics and OTA point directly at backwards feature creep.

Tl:dr VW ECU were programmable to drivers profiles. Dealers would take out a car “hot rod” it driving like its a race car and slip it back onto the lot. Customers would test drive and their jaws would drop. Just as fast they’d drop their wallets, buying it off the lot.

Couple weeks later the dealer would factory upgrade the EcU version. Performance gone! Never to return, regardless how hot rodded.
 
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