Two Recent Tesla Patents (Feb/March 2022)

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A couple of Tesla patents were recently approved/issued that I thought were of interest...Will we see either of these in the Cybertruck? Time will tell....

* Tesla was just granted a patent on March 1 that is related to a new wiring system architecture for cars. The gist of it seems to be a backbone wiring system that everything is connected to, instead of running 12v wires to everything. Interesting...

tinyurl.com/mr9swvac

* A second patent was granted to Tesla in late February for an automatic tire-inflation system with through-hub air feed...Sounds like that would eliminate manually airing up tires in the future....Very nice...

tinyurl.com/2tnh5874

 

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A couple of Tesla patents were recently approved/issued that I thought were of interest...Will we see either of these in the Cybertruck? Time will tell....

* Tesla was just granted a patent on March 1 that is related to a new wiring system architecture for cars. The gist of it seems to be a backbone wiring system that everything is connected to, instead of running 12v wires to everything. Interesting...

tinyurl.com/mr9swvac
A while back Sandy Munro was interviewing Elon and they got talking about replacing the power and communications systems on the car with a 48 volt system which was more like power over Ethernet. Sounds like thats what this might be. Patent speak always confuses me though so I wasn’t quite sure if it was one powered line inside the sheath with 2 insulated lines or with 5 lines, 2 which are insulated and 2 which are not.

Regardless, the idea here is rather than having a bunch of wires with home runs, you have a single braid which feeds power and signal to the whole car.
 

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A while back Sandy Munro was interviewing Elon and they got talking about replacing the power and communications systems on the car with a 48 volt system which was more like power over Ethernet. Sounds like thats what this might be. Patent speak always confuses me though so I wasn’t quite sure if it was one powered line inside the sheath with 2 insulated lines or with 5 lines, 2 which are insulated and 2 which are not.

Regardless, the idea here is rather than having a bunch of wires with home runs, you have a single braid which feeds power and signal to the whole car.
No, that's a different one!

This one is using a stiff frame of wiring bus that snaps into place, like traces on a circuit board or the backplate of a wiring cabinet. Then the stuff snaps into place against it.

-Crissa
 

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No, that's a different one!

This one is using a stiff frame of wiring bus that snaps into place, like traces on a circuit board or the backplate of a wiring cabinet. Then the stuff snaps into place against it.

-Crissa
Ah.

But it’s still fundamentally a data/ power conduit, just rigid, not a flexible wire?
 

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A couple of Tesla patents were recently approved/issued that I thought were of interest...Will we see either of these in the Cybertruck? Time will tell....

* Tesla was just granted a patent on March 1 that is related to a new wiring system architecture for cars. The gist of it seems to be a backbone wiring system that everything is connected to, instead of running 12v wires to everything. Interesting...

tinyurl.com/mr9swvac

* A second patent was granted to Tesla in late February for an automatic tire-inflation system with through-hub air feed...Sounds like that would eliminate manually airing up tires in the future....Very nice...

tinyurl.com/2tnh5874
NICE.
 


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No, that's a different one!

This one is using a stiff frame of wiring bus that snaps into place, like traces on a circuit board or the backplate of a wiring cabinet. Then the stuff snaps into place against it.

-Crissa
One very practical advantage of a wiring bus for consumers will be a reduced risk from rats chewing through wire insulation. In California, I have friends using noisemakers and various aromatic sprays to keep rats from nesting in their internal combustion engine compartments. Of course, the Cybertruck may be well sealed against anything getting inside. Our rats will be confused by the lack of handles ?
 

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A couple of Tesla patents were recently approved/issued that I thought were of interest...Will we see either of these in the Cybertruck? Time will tell....

* Tesla was just granted a patent on March 1 that is related to a new wiring system architecture for cars. The gist of it seems to be a backbone wiring system that everything is connected to, instead of running 12v wires to everything. Interesting...

tinyurl.com/mr9swvac

* A second patent was granted to Tesla in late February for an automatic tire-inflation system with through-hub air feed...Sounds like that would eliminate manually airing up tires in the future....Very nice...

tinyurl.com/2tnh5874
Tire fill was probably part of the Semi design for dual wheel application?
 

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Ah.

But it’s still fundamentally a data/ power conduit, just rigid, not a flexible wire?
Yeah. It should be much easier to install onto the vehicle. One step instead of tucking wires everywhere.

One very practical advantage of a wiring bus for consumers will be a reduced risk from rats chewing through wire insulation. In California, I have friends using noisemakers and various aromatic sprays to keep rats from nesting in their internal combustion engine compartments. Of course, the Cybertruck may be well sealed against anything getting inside. Our rats will be confused by the lack of handles ?
Yeah, we just fought off a series of brown rats. Never had them stay inside before! Usually an application of sage smudging to their nest will get them to evacuate but they dug in deeper. We even used sonic and cold, but... We had to deploy actual kill traps this time ;-; In one night, my spouse got two adult browns, two juveniles, and a black (roof) rat. Later we got two more adolescent browns and another roof rat. And just this week one of the abandoned (oops) traps got one of the small packrats.

I rebuilt the mesh around plumbing, as I think that's how they were getting in. I have most of the house wrapped in hardware cloth or chicken wire now. Still some gaps I can't cover... We lost our good ratting cat last summer ;-; I loved that cat. Even the last week before she died (she had just completed chemo for leukemia) she caught one of the browns.

-Crissa
 

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I had perceived a cable incorporating all the different elements.. Communication, low and higher voltage all in one. Somewhat like say HDMI which can carry picture and sound/USB, Data/power.

I had envisaged the trick would have been to be able to easily 'spilce' into the cable, say using a clip to divert the relevant cable whilst still keeping the connection intact. Imagine mission impossible when they splice into a camera cable to view it, without effecting the other end.


So, Ive got the cable running up the guts of the car somehow incorporated in the battery pack, carrying all services, and they just clip to go left and right to each wheel, it continues to the back for the lights, for trailer connections, hitch camera etc.



1 cable to rule them all
 

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Ah.

But it’s still fundamentally a data/ power conduit, just rigid, not a flexible wire?
Overall yes, but the key is that the endpoints need to be addressable/intelligent so they can filter out the messages meant for them.

There have already been designs like this for house wiring, where the lights (and outlets) be installed anywhere on the bus and then addressed to individually turn on. Not to be confused with the bluetooth lights that can do that wirelessly.
 


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Overall yes, but the key is that the endpoints need to be addressable/intelligent so they can filter out the messages meant for them.

There have already been designs like this for house wiring, where the lights (and outlets) be installed anywhere on the bus and then addressed to individually turn on. Not to be confused with the bluetooth lights that can do that wirelessly.
Yeah, there are a lot of inexpensive chips out there for this. I’m guessing there is a little microcontroller for each light array and the cameras probably plug right into this as well. I wonder if they run a full IP stack or something simpler.
 

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Tire fill was probably part of the Semi design for dual wheel application?
Yes. Dwgs are Semi 10 wheel tractor shown. Claims detail full floating hubs, sealed bearings and air channeled axel shafts/spindles.

Patent would be applicable to full floating hubs on Cybertruck. This would be a separate mini-system, 4 wheels for pickup implementation. No provision is called out for extending the system beyond to spare tires or to a trailer axel and wheels.

Why do I have an impulse to replace the “air” with Halon gas and pipe into Semi’s battery pack to create a fire suppression system?
 

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Why do I have an impulse to replace the “air” with Halon gas and pipe into Semi’s battery pack to create a fire suppression system?
So for the Semi, if the tires are filled with Halon, when a tire catches fire, will it self extinguish as it bursts open?

Or could there be a fire suppression outlet just above the tires so you can extinguish a tire fire immediately from the cab?
 

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No, that's a different one!

This one is using a stiff frame of wiring bus that snaps into place, like traces on a circuit board or the backplate of a wiring cabinet. Then the stuff snaps into place against it.

-Crissa

I think Sandy said on one of his videos, that typically the wiring harness was so flimsy that it had to be installed by a human hand...but a 'stiff' wiring harness could be installed by a robot........thus saving $.
 

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Yeah. It should be much easier to install onto the vehicle. One step instead of tucking wires everywhere.


Yeah, we just fought off a series of brown rats. Never had them stay inside before! Usually an application of sage smudging to their nest will get them to evacuate but they dug in deeper. We even used sonic and cold, but... We had to deploy actual kill traps this time ;-; In one night, my spouse got two adult browns, two juveniles, and a black (roof) rat. Later we got two more adolescent browns and another roof rat. And just this week one of the abandoned (oops) traps got one of the small packrats.

I rebuilt the mesh around plumbing, as I think that's how they were getting in. I have most of the house wrapped in hardware cloth or chicken wire now. Still some gaps I can't cover... We lost our good ratting cat last summer ;-; I loved that cat. Even the last week before she died (she had just completed chemo for leukemia) she caught one of the browns.

-Crissa
Black Snakes will take care of your problem.

 

 
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