What Everyone is Missing w/ Quad Motor Cybertruck.

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More than likely, the new quad motor CT will have a longer range, and increased towing capability for those who want to haul loads. This is fantastic as it will bring CT out of the F150 class and into the F250 range of potential buyers.

The problem is how on earth will you charge while towing? I've mentioned this I don't know how many times in other threads, there are scarce pull through chargers currently, and no one wants to have to unhitch every time. I watch the new v3 chargers being installed and all of them are still the back in stalls.

I love the idea of a more capable CT, but what's the point if you have to suffer every time to charge? What do you think Tesla's end solution is to this?

Only thing I can think of is when they get to a certain percentage of total vehicle sales, some existing gas stations might convert gas pumps for chargers, but even that isn't ideal because then you'd be blocking a different charger. Idk, thoughts?
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It would be simple enough for Tesla to update the vehicle nav to prioritize pull-thru SC stalls. You don’t need allot of them, you just need enough.

Worst case, use a 3rd-party SC extension cord, although that sounds a bit sketch.

I suppose it’s possible that the charge port will be relocated to the front, but there’s no chance that Mr. “best part is no part” will install two charge ports.
 

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The problem is how on earth will you charge while towing?

…there are scarce pull through chargers currently, and no one wants to have to unhitch every time. I watch the new v3 chargers being installed and all of them are still the back in stalls.
Exactly this! Not only that but imagine you stop at a supercharger station and there’s only about 2 stalls left, you go through all the trouble of unhitching your trailer/tow so that you can backup into a supercharger only for those two stalls to get occupied in the time it took you to unhitch because by then Tesla would’ve already made their superchargers available to every other EV on the road.
 

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I love the idea of a more capable CT, but what's the point if you have to suffer every time to charge? What do you think Tesla's end solution is to this?

Only thing I can think of is when they get to a certain percentage of total vehicle sales, some existing gas stations might convert gas pumps for chargers, but even that isn't ideal because then you'd be blocking a different charger. Idk, thoughts?
Is there anywhere to go? But up.

Enter 900v charging?

Tesla seems to be executing not Field of Dreams…but working on a solution different than plugging drive-tru charge ports in the future.
 

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Some of this was covered in an article by Motor Trend that was released around the time of the unveil two years ago...

* Just one charging port; it adds too much weight for more than one (according to Franz)
* The plan is to build specialized pull-through SC sites in rural areas specifically for charging the truck (time to start executing on that part of the plan!)...

https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-cybertruck-electric-pickup-superchargers/
 
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Is there anywhere to go? But up.

Enter 900v charging?

Tesla seems to be executing not Field of Dreams…but working on a solution different than plugging drive-tru charge ports in the future.
I know in last earnings call they said they'd be tripling superchargers in next 2 years. Could be an oversight by Tesla to not have pull through, but I doubt they aren't thinking of this. Maybe they have plans to partner with gas stations, maybe something new with allowing others to charge on the network? Who knows!

Point is if you're getting the CT with expectation of long haul towing, it won't be fun or convenient for several years!
 

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I know in last earnings call they said they'd be tripling superchargers in next 2 years. Could be an oversight by Tesla to not have pull through, but I doubt they aren't thinking of this. Maybe they have plans to partner with gas stations, maybe something new with allowing others to charge on the network? Who knows!

Point is if you're getting the CT with expectation of long haul towing, it won't be fun or convenient for several years!
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-new-megachargers-giga-nevada-photos/

You think these things aren't going to also be usable by cyber truck owners? If they are also producing a semi that is expected to do long haul transport, they clearly also have plans to expand their sc network with these semi chargers at an equal rate to their production, otherwise no one will use the semis. Cyber truck owners who tow will be able to find these aplenty in short order once the ct starts delivering in numbers.
 

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More than likely, the new quad motor CT will have a longer range, and increased towing capability for those who want to haul loads. This is fantastic as it will bring CT out of the F150 class and into the F250 range of potential buyers.

The problem is how on earth will you charge while towing? I've mentioned this I don't know how many times in other threads, there are scarce pull through chargers currently, and no one wants to have to unhitch every time. I watch the new v3 chargers being installed and all of them are still the back in stalls.

I love the idea of a more capable CT, but what's the point if you have to suffer every time to charge? What do you think Tesla's end solution is to this?

Only thing I can think of is when they get to a certain percentage of total vehicle sales, some existing gas stations might convert gas pumps for chargers, but even that isn't ideal because then you'd be blocking a different charger. Idk, thoughts?
If you are towing heavy loads over 5000 lbs over 150 miles per day weekly the cybertruck is probably not for you. I wish someone would make a heavy duty plug in hybrid. 200kWhr battery, full electric drive with 40-60 hp motor for a generator. I bet you this would make your effective range 400 miles. Charging with the trailer will still suck, but hopefully only required at night. 80% of total vehicle miles should be electric only.
 
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https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-new-megachargers-giga-nevada-photos/

You think these things aren't going to also be usable by cyber truck owners? If they are also producing a semi that is expected to do long haul transport, they clearly also have plans to expand their sc network with these semi chargers at an equal rate to their production, otherwise no one will use the semis. Cyber truck owners who tow will be able to find these aplenty in short order once the ct starts delivering in numbers.
I hope you're right! Maybe when CT (or semi) starts shipping we'll get an update on megacharger installation road map. There hasn't been any mention of this, and everyone on this site keeps talking about how they'll use their CT to tow. Not until this or something similar gets built out!!
 
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While there aren't many pull-through chargers, they do exist.

But you know what doesn't exist yet? Cybertrucks towing things.

-Crissa
Haha, good point! But I think we both know it will take several years to build up a charging network with pull through charging.
 
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https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-semi-new-megachargers-giga-nevada-photos/

You think these things aren't going to also be usable by cyber truck owners? If they are also producing a semi that is expected to do long haul transport, they clearly also have plans to expand their sc network with these semi chargers at an equal rate to their production, otherwise no one will use the semis. Cyber truck owners who tow will be able to find these aplenty in short order once the ct starts delivering in numbers.
I'm curious if the CT will have the same plug in as the semi. The semi (correct me if I'm wrong) has the capability to charge at 1000kw so will need a much larger plug than what Tesla uses now.
 

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I thought people were saying Tesla was going to try and add drive through charging at rest stops, essentially where the long trucks, RVs and vehicles with trailers are required to go. Of course I could see diesel trucks running down the chargers of parking in them but you have the same problem with regular chargers. Once the semi is released, I'm sure truck stops will start including them just like they include overnight parking with exhaust capture systems. Nice thing is once diesels are gone, these truck stops will be eerily quiet. Problem I see on the west coast with rest stops being used is half of them are closed for "maintenance." I have to wonder if this means there aren't enough people to clean them.
 

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More than likely, the new quad motor CT will have a longer range, and increased towing capability for those who want to haul loads. This is fantastic as it will bring CT out of the F150 class and into the F250 range of potential buyers.

The problem is how on earth will you charge while towing? I've mentioned this I don't know how many times in other threads, there are scarce pull through chargers currently, and no one wants to have to unhitch every time. I watch the new v3 chargers being installed and all of them are still the back in stalls.

I love the idea of a more capable CT, but what's the point if you have to suffer every time to charge? What do you think Tesla's end solution is to this?

Only thing I can think of is when they get to a certain percentage of total vehicle sales, some existing gas stations might convert gas pumps for chargers, but even that isn't ideal because then you'd be blocking a different charger. Idk, thoughts?
My biggest beef is with the insane increased cost from the single motor (I reserved one without FSD). I consider "sinking" money into a truck vehicle for my hobby land as an expense (I have a car) unless I own a business (which I don't). Going from $39.9USD to possible $80KUSD to $100USD is insane. I rather own Tesla stocks and die to give these Tesla stocks to my four children and grandchildren instead of burning away all that money for the fun of it, just for myself driving a new Tesla truck.
 
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