What Wall Charger to Buy???

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So you know how Elon stated that it is better to have everything set up and installed (The wall charger) before you get your CT... well as looking into it I noticed all the talk about going to different voltage system and possibly a version 4 charger for the CT... That kinda goes against being prepared when you don't know what to prepare for. So what's your take on the set up/ voltage requirements to be ready to welcome home your new CT???
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So you know how Elon stated that it is better to have everything set up and installed (The wall charger) before you get your CT... well as looking into it I noticed all the talk about going to different voltage system and possibly a version 4 charger for the CT... That kinda goes against being prepared when you don't know what to prepare for. So what's your take on the set up/ voltage requirements to be ready to welcome home your new CT???
That's for superchargers. At home, you will only install a level 2, so it doesn't matter.
 

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@BigAl The home 'charger' won't be different. It's basically a special type of outlet that tells the EV how much amperage is available. The charger is actually onboard the truck.

And it won't really matter for Superchargers, either, since it would have to have some way to be backwards compatible with all the existing stations or it would be horrible. Even the 900v Porsche can do this.

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I already have a couple of chargers in my garage for existing vehicles. But if I were just getting started, the only thing that would make me want to wait a bit before buying a charger for the Cyber Truck is that we don't really know yet if the first generation CT will be able to natively export power to the house (I suspect they might since Ford is getting a lot of press for this and Tesla doesn't want to be left behind).

If that were the case, then it would be worthwhile to purchase the special hardware that would allow that to happen for the garage. Otherwise, if that's not a concern, then a standard Tesla Wall connector would work fine to charge the truck when the time comes.
 

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The genius of the Tesla power connector is that the same pair of wires handle both A/C power and HVDC, making it quite svelte compared to the rest. The prototype CT's are using this connector, which is a good sign.

My impatience is compelling me to configure a charging solution, but we will know more once the design is finalized and deliveries start. Unless your RN is in the first few hundred, there will be plenty of time to be ready.

There are numerous discussions on charging solutions over on TMC. There are 3rd-party EVSE's that offer additional features, but Teslas' require no adapters and are plug-n-play. That's probably the route I'll go.
 


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Further to that you won't get a 800V supply fed into your house unless it has a dedicated transformer. There are no 800V grid distribution lines that I'm aware of anywhere on the planet, especially not for houses. 800V, if it comes will be just for superchargers.

In any case I'd ensure that whatever house cabling the electrician does is wired up directly to the main fuse/meter box where the power comes into the house. This way if the CT can supply household power your wiring already runs to the right spot to do it.

Most "chargers" being sold are actually only safety switches and vehicles communication devices that just connect power via cables, the actual battery charger is in the vehicle. So if you are building or want to get set up just get your electrician to put the largest cable your household supply can handle to where the charger will go. From there is should be easy to add whatever CT charger they realease.
 

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I know I will be using a Tesla Wall Connector for charging my Cybertruck. The only reason I have not installed one in my garage is I want to wait and see if a Gen 4 Wall Connector is released closer to Cybertruck production.
 

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So you know how Elon stated that it is better to have everything set up and installed (The wall charger) before you get your CT... well as looking into it I noticed all the talk about going to different voltage system and possibly a version 4 charger for the CT... That kinda goes against being prepared when you don't know what to prepare for. So what's your take on the set up/ voltage requirements to be ready to welcome home your new CT???
In the US it's going to be 240 (or 208) for a long, long time on the voltage. The current Gen 3 EVSE max out at 48A. The Gen 2 went up to 80 and it does stand to reason that faster charging will be wanted for the CT with its battery double the size of the largest they have on the market now. And if they do that how will they implement it? Two 48A charge ports? A single 80A port? A single 96A port?

I can't think of anyway to prepare for all those possibilities other than to pull wire of sufficient gauge for and mount a 120A sub panel near where you want the EVSE to be. When all is revealed then you can run the necessary circuit(s) from that sub panel to the EVSEs' actual locations.
 
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One other thing. Tesla’s wall connector is about half the cost of most of the similar J1772 based chargers.

Even if you have another brand of car it’s cheaper to have the Tesla wall connector and buy the Tesla -> J1772 adaptor.
 


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And Tesla's is wifi enabled. My set-up cost $130 plus I made it from components.

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That’s right, you converted a Tesla wall charger to 1772 didn’t you? I was thinking of just using the the adaptor but you’ve done a full on conversion.
 

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That’s right, you converted a Tesla wall charger to 1772 didn’t you? I was thinking of just using the the adaptor but you’ve done a full on conversion.
No, I needed a 100' cable so I made one ^-^;

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So what's your take on the set up/ voltage requirements to be ready to welcome home your new CT???
I plan to use my existing 240v 30a outlet and see how it goes. I don't imagine I would ever need more. In my situation, adding more is super easy because of the breaker panel location.
 

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I plan to use my existing 240v 30a outlet and see how it goes. I don't imagine I would ever need more. In my situation, adding more is super easy because of the breaker panel location.
We’ve had our Model 3 for over a year with 120v 12a… you’ll have 5x as much juice as I do. Can’t imagine even with the bigger battery pack it’ll present a problem. We only struggle when we have 2 days in a row of big travel.
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