Sponsored

Supercharging solely for those who have free access

YDR37

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 29, 2023
Threads
26
Messages
1,471
Reaction score
2,403
Location
California
Vehicles
Tacoma
Country flag
For those of us who purchased with free access to supercharging, can I just supercharge each week and not plug into my home? That was one of the reasons I bought it. The manager at the store told me I should be charging it at home and only supercharge on trips. I'm thinking tesla just doesn't want to pay for all my charging.
No, Tesla doesn't want to pay for all of your charging. There is some fine print on the Free Supercharging offer that addresses this; in particular, notice the bolded parts:
Customers who purchase a new Cybertruck Foundation Series are eligible for free Supercharging during your ownership of the vehicle. Order must be placed on or after February 28, 2025. Offer is tied to your Tesla Account and cannot be transferred to another vehicle, person or order, even in the case of ownership transfer. Used vehicles, business orders and vehicles used for commercial purposes (like taxi, rideshare and delivery services) are excluded from this promotion. You are still responsible for Supercharger fees, like idle and congestion fees, when applicable. Order is not eligible for Powershare voucher. Tesla reserves the right in its sole discretion to remove the free Supercharging from your vehicle in the event of excessive charging or unpaid fees related to Supercharging. Free Supercharging only redeemable directly at Tesla-owned Superchargers. Promotion subject to change or end at any time.
Why does Tesla exclude commercial vehicles? Because Tesla doesn't want to pay for all of an Uber driver's charging.

And why does Tesla reserve the right to remove your free Supercharging in the event of "excessive charging"? Because Tesla doesn't want to pay for all of your charging either.

If you always charge for free at Superchargers, and never charge at home, Tesla can track that. Could Tesla consider this to be "excessive charging"? Could Tesla then remove your Free Supercharging privileges? I don't know, but in theory, they have the right to do so.
Sponsored

 
Last edited:

Crissa

Well-known member
First Name
Crissa
Joined
Jul 8, 2020
Threads
138
Messages
19,571
Reaction score
31,477
Location
Santa Cruz
Vehicles
2014 Zero S, 2013 Mazda 3
Country flag
5000 miles since Jan 2025. Have only used free supercharging (outside of 50 miles on a home charger) and battery cycles have been 23. No battery issue as you can see from below. *No loss of personal time as very intentional with when and how we charge and what we get accomplished while doing so. With charging costs in the Bay Area close to $0.59 kWh, we’ll end up saving close to $10K this year and probably more every subsequent year.

IMG_8042.jpg
Dude, offpeak is only 34¢ a kilowatt. Median is 45¢
https://www.pge.com/assets/pge/docs/account/rate-plans/electric-rate-advisory-0125.pdf

If you're paying 59¢ a kilowatt in the Bay Area, you need to check your plan and change it.

-Crissa
 

YDR37

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 29, 2023
Threads
26
Messages
1,471
Reaction score
2,403
Location
California
Vehicles
Tacoma
Country flag
Do you know of any actual case of Tesla taking away someone's "free" Supercharging?
No, I only said that it was theoretically possible. I don't know if it happens in practice.

If it ever does happen, I would expect affected customers to be ... unhappy.
 
  • Like
Reactions: REM


Gaximus

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 22, 2024
Threads
23
Messages
1,463
Reaction score
2,288
Location
Mead, CO
Vehicles
CyberBeast, Model 3, Jeep Wrangler, Yamaha R6
Occupation
Software Developer
Country flag
Super charging isn’t as bad as it used to be on the vehicle, but leaving the vehicle unplugged is. Also like many others have said, time. One of the best benefits of an EV is skipping the gas station. Swapping that out for sitting at a station for an hour or more a week, seems like a much worse trade off.
 

Hookalakupua

Well-known member
First Name
J
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
19
Messages
450
Reaction score
868
Location
Reno/Bay Area
Vehicles
Cybertruck FS AWD "LIFETIME SUPERCHARGING", 23 MY, 25 MX
Country flag
I think Tesla should give “free” charging privileges only if you’re over 100 miles out of your zip code.
Out of pure curiosity, what’s the rationale behind that? Freeing up spaces due to overcrowding from owners with free supercharging? I’ve seen it said a few times so just trying to understand.
Thanks
 

xbeast

Active member
Joined
Jun 1, 2024
Threads
2
Messages
26
Reaction score
23
Location
Overland Park KS
Vehicles
Foundation Series Cyber Beast
Wow our rates are, peak $.20 to $.27 per kwh, and off peak $.03 to.04 $.04. I schedule off peak.
 

mongo

Well-known member
Joined
May 27, 2024
Threads
5
Messages
4,532
Reaction score
5,515
Location
SE Michigan
Vehicles
Cyberbeast
Country flag
I think Tesla should give “free” charging privileges only if you’re over 100 miles out of your zip code.
That overlooks people returning from road trips.
Along with trips into no charger land. We need to stop twice to charge at a spot 114 miles from us to visit family. If we lived 14 miles closer, we still would...
 

Shadowmite

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 29, 2025
Threads
2
Messages
145
Reaction score
271
Location
Denver, CO
Vehicles
FS CT, 24' MYP
Occupation
Engineer
Country flag
I think we can all agree that there are scenarios where free Supercharging privileges could potentially be abused. Like maybe this one:

My Friend's Cybertruck is a Mobile Bitcoin Mine Thanks to Free Supercharging
Pretty sure things like this are the exact reason for that clause. Tesla isn’t likely to have a problem with people using a proportionate about of kWh vs their odometer mileage.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GmP


YDR37

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 29, 2023
Threads
26
Messages
1,471
Reaction score
2,403
Location
California
Vehicles
Tacoma
Country flag
I think Tesla should give “free” charging privileges only if you’re over 100 miles out of your zip code.
Out of pure curiosity, what’s the rationale behind that? Freeing up spaces due to overcrowding from owners with free supercharging? I’ve seen it said a few times so just trying to understand.
Thanks
Suppose you are a typical EV owner, without any "free Supercharging" perk. You normally charge at home, because this is cheap and convenient. But obviously you can't charge at home when you are traveling, so then you use Superchargers instead. In this case, the Superchargers supplement -- but do not replace -- home charging.

Now let's say that you a lucky EV owner with free Supercharging. Tesla may be expecting you to follow the same pattern: do most of your charging at home, but use the free Superchargers when traveling. So again, the free Superchargers supplement -- but do not replace -- home charging.

Tesla may not be expecting you to do all of your charging at free Superchargers -- in which case free Supercharging does replace home charging. Some people would argue that this is an abuse of the "free Supercharging" perk. The "free Supercharging only when you are at least 100 miles from home" concept is intended to eliminate the potential for this perceived abuse, so that you only use the free Supercharging while traveling, like a typical EV owner.

As far as I know, Tesla has never provided an exact definition of "excessive charging". So it's not clear whether doing all of your charging at free Superchargers, instead of at home, is an abuse or not. However, I wouldn't be shocked if Tesla did define "excessive charging" that way in the future, and started cracking down.
 

Hookalakupua

Well-known member
First Name
J
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
19
Messages
450
Reaction score
868
Location
Reno/Bay Area
Vehicles
Cybertruck FS AWD "LIFETIME SUPERCHARGING", 23 MY, 25 MX
Country flag

Hookalakupua

Well-known member
First Name
J
Joined
Jun 24, 2020
Threads
19
Messages
450
Reaction score
868
Location
Reno/Bay Area
Vehicles
Cybertruck FS AWD "LIFETIME SUPERCHARGING", 23 MY, 25 MX
Country flag
Suppose you are a typical EV owner, without any "free Supercharging" perk. You normally charge at home, because this is cheap and convenient. But obviously you can't charge at home when you are traveling, so then you use Superchargers instead. In this case, the Superchargers supplement -- but do not replace -- home charging.

Now let's say that you a lucky EV owner with free Supercharging. Tesla may be expecting you to follow the same pattern: do most of your charging at home, but use the free Superchargers when traveling. So again, the free Superchargers supplement -- but do not replace -- home charging.

Tesla may not be expecting you to do all of your charging at free Superchargers -- in which case free Supercharging does replace home charging. Some people would argue that this is an abuse of the "free Supercharging" perk. The "free Supercharging only when you are at least 100 miles from home" concept is intended to eliminate the potential for this perceived abuse, so that you only use the free Supercharging while traveling, like a typical EV owner.

As far as I know, Tesla has never provided an exact definition of "excessive charging". So it's not clear whether doing all of your charging at free Superchargers, instead of at home, is an abuse or not. However, I wouldn't be shocked if Tesla did define "excessive charging" that way in the future, and started cracking down.
Thank you as truly appreciate the response and insight. We personally don’t believe it will be an issue as long as we’re only charging for miles driven and not for home or vehicle sharing but we’re guessing like everyone else. Will definitely report back if we hear from Tesla! Thanks again.
 

Balthezor

Well-known member
First Name
Ron
Joined
Jun 21, 2020
Threads
28
Messages
1,023
Reaction score
1,400
Location
PA
Vehicles
Cyberbeast, Range Rover, Model Y
Country flag
This is exactly what I wanted to see. Why pay for the electricity when you get this amazing benefit! I listen to audio books while I charge or update my website. Thank you for sharing this!
Because this benefit isn't entirely free. It takes time. If you are ok with wasting time supercharging, then that works. You can work remotely, etc. My time is more valuable than that. Time is money.
 

Crissa

Well-known member
First Name
Crissa
Joined
Jul 8, 2020
Threads
138
Messages
19,571
Reaction score
31,477
Location
Santa Cruz
Vehicles
2014 Zero S, 2013 Mazda 3
Country flag
Unfortunately, our charging times are at peak rates in Palo Alto, Mountain View, Los Altos, Los Gatos and Almaden where $0.59 per kWh is the cost.
Why are you charging at peak rates?

And too bad you're not actually at Palo Alto rates. Those are like super cheap.

-Crissa
Sponsored

 
 








Top