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A suggested design enhancement is a design flaw?

Oh, wait. Nothing short of material perfection is the standard you are holding him to lmao. You guys are absolutely something-else to behold.
I'm just pointing out that a YouTuber saw something the super genius missed. I'm not the one putting him up on a pedestal.
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I'm just pointing out that a YouTuber saw something the super genius missed. I'm not the one putting him up on a pedestal.
You are conflating my observation of him being a genius with me somehow thinking he is perfect. I hate it when people erect straw-man arguments like this. Super annoying and disingenuous.

What do you want from this interaction? Do you sincerely think he's a fraud and is faking his role at SpaceX?
 

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Do you sincerely think he's a fraud and is faking his role at SpaceX?
I think you, and many others, inflate his abilities. As for Elon "faking it", he has been caught blatantly lying about his gaming abilities. Anyone willing to lie about something so minuscule in the grand scheme of things has to be questioned on their integrity.
 

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I think you, and many others, inflate his abilities. As for Elon "faking it", he has been caught blatantly lying about his gaming abilities. Anyone willing to lie about something so minuscule in the grand scheme of things has to be questioned on their integrity.
That settles it for me. You literally just want to hate the guy. ?‍♂
 

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The word “counterintuitive” exists for a reason. Owning a business does not make you a risk manager or a lawyer.

I’ll give you a quick story and then I’m going to stop talking about this because I’m just not here to convince anyone of anything that they don’t want to believe.

A few years ago one of my clients, a name you know, went and purchased one of their competitors who was much larger a name you knew. We’ll call them R and A. respectively.

When merging the teams they had exactly 2 heads of risk management. The risk manager at the R was very aggressive in litigation and his strategy was to fight everything rarely settle do mock juries and all kinds of expensive procedures to “send a message” that R would not settle with you and pound you into the ground.

The risk manager at A quickly settled as many cases as she could.

The risk manager at R, Dave was a guy that I got to know well over the years enjoyed hanging out with and since his company then the purchaser he thought, for sure, he would be the obvious director of risk in the new combined team. After all, the combined new entity was called R still.

Dave was gone with an eight months of the acquisition. The lady he thought he was going to beat still my client. Why?

Her costs were orders of magnitude less. At the time of the acquisition, R had a market cap of $3 billion. A I had a market cap of twice that and something like 2-3 times the number of employees. The combined company had 35,000 employees.

So, she had lower costs, with substantially more exposure. Dave isn’t the only one who go bye-bye. One of the attorneys in my firm simply could not wrap his head around Dave not being in charge and he would repeatedly forget who the client was and insist on his typical scorched earth litigation strategy. The day we found out who won the internal battle of the risk manager’s was the same day he was sent packing

This is known. You don’t need to take my word for it next time you’re talking to your agent/broker or any lawyer that you know that does general liability defense work ask them.

I’ll say this one last time. The case was 100% settled for financial reasons and almost certainly it is because the decedent estate realized that they may not recover more than the tender (initial offer of settlement) that was made by Tesla or some other decision on their end.

People are going to sue if they want to sue. Good lawyers are not afraid of their opponents. We want the fight!!! So, this whole idea that you only settle if your case is weak thing … I’m sorry to bust your bubble but it’s just nonsense! Likewise, the conventional wisdom that if we are relentless and never settle fewer people will sue us is demonstrably false, for the reasons I’ve stated above.

this work is done by the lawyers on a contingency basis so even if the litigants are poor, they don’t need to worry about the cost of litigation upfront. That’s a risk the lawyers take! In the past people would use a strategy of trying to starve the litigants because even though they’re not paying for their legal fees they still need food and shelter but that’s no longer a problem for many decades: https://tribecalawsuitloans.com/states/new-york-lawsuit-loans/

Bean counters decide whether we get to fight or not. And smart bean counters avoid it because it’s just more financially sound as a strategy as demonstrated by my story above.
 
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That settles it for me. You literally just want to hate the guy. ?‍♂
That's not even close to what I said and is a ridiculous statement. I only deal with facts, and it is a simple fact that he lied about his gaming achievements and was exposed for it. It's a rather blatant character flaw for an adult, to say the least. It's also not an isolated incident.
 

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That's not even close to what I said and is a ridiculous statement. I only deal with facts, and it is a simple fact that he lied about his gaming achievements and was exposed for it. It's a rather blatant character flaw for an adult, to say the least. It's also not an isolated incident.
Did he cheat on his 4th grade spelling test too? Or call Sally a doo-doo head?
 

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Allow me to add context that you are purposefully leaving off.

(to literally rescue stranded astronauts due to gross government negligence and incompetence).

But NASA had been doing that for decades
(using nearly unlimited taxpayer funds with no real deadlines to meet).

It's huge news that SpaceX is launching satellites
(that created a network capable of connecting everyone on planet earth for the first time in human history).

Again - something that isn't new.
(actually something that is completely new).

SpaceX didn't invent space travel and they wouldn't exist except for the NASA (tax payers) paving the way. The one fairly impressive thing they have done is reusable booster rockets. And, it appears, so has Blue Origin.
Hyperbolic and flippant statement :rolleyes:. Do you not see how you are just providing commentary of why you hate Elon enterprises?

Is he a Rocket Scientist? Maybe, maybe not - since most/all the technology was provided by NASA.
That's like someone trying to distill your job down to "You wouldn't be able be a drivers ED teacher if Henry Ford hadn't first bolstered the assembly line".

There's some interesting discussions about this very topic. Neil Degrasse Tyson is pretty well versed on the subject - perhaps watch a few of his videos.
This the equivalent of suggesting Bill Nye as top-in-class expert ?

I'll tell you what I would be impressed by - if Elon would build a submarine that could carry him down to the titanic to explore. My money says he's incapable of it!
Ah, so you want wish death on him. This is a snarky jab at Oceangate. GG.

I'll let you have the last word on this since you seem to desperately need it to vent all your frustrations. Go ahead man, let it all out. We're here for you. ?
 


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Let it out, bud ?
 

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That settles it for me. You literally just want to hate the guy. ?‍♂
Well I'm glad that's settled!

I've noticed Elon's haters are always, without exception, someone whose life accomplishments and contributions to humanity are almost nothing compared to what Elon has already accomplished. This makes them feel small and insignificant so they try to tear him down to their own size. They take innocent gestures like Elon throwing his heart out to the crowd and try to turn them into Elon being a secret Nazi (or some other terrible monster of a person).

But it just ends up making them look petty and ridiculous. ?
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