Pirelli Scorpion All-Season Tires on Cyber wheels

[FlightMJ23]

How do they look with the cyber covers on?

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[JCERRN]

I wonder how Tesla sets the alignment? Since the truck drops into low mode at highway speeds, hopefully they set the camber while it’s in low mode. If they already do that, it needs some negative camber taken away. They probably do this for stability reasons though.

Well, you ever drive in very high or extract? Its like a palm tree blowing in the wind. Much more sporty in low

 

[Soldier008]

Yeah, that looks like a camber issue or likely by design. Did you drive mostly in low or medium ride height? Looks like a lot of negative camber, could be because highway ride height is always low. Not a problem, just designed to operate that way. Similar to many BMW's or performance vehicles which generally have negative camber for flatter tire surfaces when cornering to get better, more predictable, handling.

95% of my total miles of 27.2k miles are all rough Nevada interstate miles, and nearly all those miles are in Sport mode, so lowered stance. Based on two prior alignment checks, I’m not concerned. This were started showing more in the later stages of tire life. All rotations indicated good consistent wear front to back…except when the truck inexplicably ended up in Off-road Baja mode with 100% balance towards rear and did multiple dirt donuts on the weekends to the sound of joy and laughter, there was noticeable differ nice in wear.

The current set of AS Scorpions were purchased gently used from United Tire at 10/32 of tread. I got a set of 4 for less than $900 shipped, so I have managed my expectations for these to last maybe 15-20k miles, but that should get me into next summer assuming I swap a winter set of tires in.
In terms of how these look with the Cyber aero covers, I haven’t tried that yet. Not wild about the covers due to a few reasons:
-clean ability, it seems I can never fully clean behind the cover and then….
-the manner in which these attach to the wheel creates that visible amount of damage, which kicks off my early onset OCD….
-also less is more. Plus curbing the aero cover is more likely than just scuffing the sidewall…

But for science, I am willing to install them and snap a photo….and for the OG’s here, I will also install the original aero covers as well as the updated aero covers.

 

[Hemi314]

Well, you ever drive in very high or extract? Its like a palm tree blowing in the wind. Much more sporty in low

I get that. You have a ton of positive camber in high. But I think they have too much negative camber in low. I guess they had to sacrifice somewhere, because if they took anymore negative camber out, it would be undriveable in high. When my tires wear out, if they wear on the inside like this, I’m going to have some neg camber removed on the alignment.

 

[koolio]

Interesting about camber and tire wear with air suspension.

So, is it common to have negative camber when the suspension is in low and positive camber when in high?

What do we need to watch out for?

I have the Pierelli AS tires and noticed a little wearing on the outside of the front tires. Showed it to the service advisor and he said he’d recommend an alignment. But the wear has gotten better recently when I lowered the tire pressure (previously, when it got warm, my hot psi could get up to 58 pounds). I’m now back down to 50 psii cold and 52-54 hot).

 

[cnemo]

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What is that piece that covers the center of the hub? Did it come with your truck or is it made 3rd party? I can't stand the look of mine without the wheel covers because of the center of the wheel exposed looks like absolute trash.

 

[Soldier008]

What is that piece that covers the center of the hub? Did it come with your truck or is it made 3rd party? I can't stand the look of mine without the wheel covers because of the center of the wheel exposed looks like absolute trash.
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This is the center caps that Tesla sent to Foundation Series owners who had to wait for aero covers. I have an extra set. DM me and I’ll send them your way courtesy of kindness.

 

[Hemi314]

Interesting about camber and tire wear with air suspension.

So, is it common to have negative camber when the suspension is in low and positive camber when in high?

What do we need to watch out for?

I have the Pierelli AS tires and noticed a little wearing on the outside of the front tires. Showed it to the service advisor and he said he’d recommend an alignment. But the wear has gotten better recently when I lowered the tire pressure (previously, when it got warm, my hot psi could get up to 58 pounds). I’m now back down to 50 psii cold and 52-54 hot).

They’re wearing on the outside? Do you drive around in high setting a lot? Most people have wear on the inside from highway driving because the truck lowers itself at higher speeds to help aero.

 

[koolio]

They’re wearing on the outside? Do you drive around in high setting a lot? Most people have wear on the inside from highway driving because the truck lowers itself at higher speeds to help aero.

I could see a little wear on the edges of the...what do you call them...the sipes. I got my alignment done at Tesla today and it was slightly out of spec (not by much).

I also think what may have caused it was when we had a warm spell for a few weeks and I didn't let air out of my tires. At one point, I saw my hot tire pressure at 58psi. So, perhaps they were a little over inflated and caused it because the wear seemed to have stopped after I lowered back to 50 psi cold (with the higher ambient temps).

 

[Sousray]

I am concerned about how many moles I will get off the AS on mine. I have 13000 miles since October 24. I hope these last for 40000 miles, but wear shows about 1/3 gone so far. Also, I am getting 362 KW/mi average over the 13000 miles. Almost 340 miles /100% charge. Better milage than EPA estimate of 325 for 100%.

 

[HaulingAss]

I could see a little wear on the edges of the...what do you call them...the sipes. I got my alignment done at Tesla today and it was slightly out of spec (not by much).

I also think what may have caused it was when we had a warm spell for a few weeks and I didn't let air out of my tires. At one point, I saw my hot tire pressure at 58psi. So, perhaps they were a little over inflated and caused it because the wear seemed to have stopped after I lowered back to 50 psi cold (with the higher ambient temps).

That doesn't make sense.

Higher pressures typically increase wear in the center of the tread and preserve the tread on the outside edges. While cornering the higher pressure reduces the scrubbing on the outside edges of the tread.

Higher suspension settings should increase treadwear on the outside edges. Hopefully the problem was alignment. Tire wear can be very sensitive to small changes in alignment because it can change the temperature that different parts of the tread run at. More heat equals more wear.

I wonder if you ran underinflated for a period of time? That can easily happen in the fall when temperatures drop.

 

[koolio]

That doesn't make sense.

Higher pressures typically increase wear in the center of the tread and preserve the tread on the outside edges. While cornering the higher pressure reduces the scrubbing on the outside edges of the tread.

Higher suspension settings should increase treadwear on the outside edges. Hopefully the problem was alignment. Tire wear can be very sensitive to small changes in alignment because it can change the temperature that different parts of the tread run at. More heat equals more wear.

I wonder if you ran underinflated for a period of time? That can easily happen in the fall when temperatures drop.

Good points. My thinking about over inflated was as I turn, it would wear the outer edges but could be wrong. I’m also hoping it was just alignment.

I didn’t run it under inflated as I added air when the temps dropped.

I had my tires rotated at the same time as the alignment so will be able to monitor how th tires wear.

 

[WILLK]

I saw an ask recently for any pics of the Pirelli Scorpion AS tires mounted on the Cyber wheels.

I finally wore out my original Goodyear AT tires at 26,000 miles…mostly highway, some Baja induced dirt donuts…and bought a second hand set of the Cyber wheels, TPMS, and gently used Scoprion tires. I have a lifetime avg of 424wh/mi with the AT tires, too early to tell how much more efficient the AS will be.

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Are these the OEM tires you get with the AWD CT? If so how are they in winter? We live in Reno and are into winter sports. About 10 years ago we had a Subaru that had OEM Bridgestone tires that got hard whenever the temperature dropped below 50 degrees. It was downright scary and one time my wife was driving the car when it slid at low speed at an T intersection into another car. She has always been afraid of winter driving since.

 

[AJL710]

Are these the OEM tires you get with the AWD CT? If so how are they in winter? We live in Reno and are into winter sports. About 10 years ago we had a Subaru that had OEM Bridgestone tires that got hard whenever the temperature dropped below 50 degrees. It was downright scary and one time my wife was driving the car when it slid at low speed at an T intersection into another car. She has always been afraid of winter driving since.

I took mine up to Big Sky Montanna during ski season with those OEM core wheel tires. Did perfectly fine in all the cold and snowy conditions.

 

[Soldier008]

Are these the OEM tires you get with the AWD CT? If so how are they in winter? We live in Reno and are into winter sports. About 10 years ago we had a Subaru that had OEM Bridgestone tires that got hard whenever the temperature dropped below 50 degrees. It was downright scary and one time my wife was driving the car when it slid at low speed at an T intersection into another car. She has always been afraid of winter driving since.

Hey there, I’m in Reno area as well. These are the Core all season tires that are standard option on Cybertruck. I’d recommend the winter tire package from Tesla (overall decent deal @ ~$3500 considering a tire is ~$500 and the wheels are ~$750 per) or a winter tire equivalent, particularly if you plan to cross Donner Pass or go up Mt Rose Hwy in winter weather.
These Pirelli Scorpion all season tires offer good wet weather and light snow traction, but if you recall the snow squall that struck in Jan 2024, I absolutely owned the snow using the 35” All Terrain options that were first released. I wouldn’t have attempted with these Core tires.

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