😱 Tesla working on a CyberSUV?

[RedneckRedcoat]

If they release an SUV version of the CT I will wait a year, buy it and then completely off road mod the existing CT.

Right now not gone with racks etc because it's my daily and roadtripper and I don't want the range drop, a Cyber SUV would instantly be my daily freeing up the truck to be modded (Otherwise I'm just gonna end up with a 2nd on road CT in 3 years lol)

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[dalton108]

If they release an SUV version of the CT I will wait a year, buy it and then completely off road mod the existing CT.

Right now not gone with racks etc because it's my daily and roadtripper and I don't want the range drop, a Cyber SUV would instantly be my daily freeing up the truck to be modded (Otherwise I'm just gonna end up with a 2nd on road CT in 3 years lol)

Good plan!

 

[devdrone6]

I'd rock this CyberSUV!

That is the best render I've seen - a bit small though - needs to be bigger.

 

[IJNYamato]

Logging in after a long hiatus just to wave and say hi

what a neat idea a Cyber based SUV would be, yeah??

 

[hemiarch]

That is the best render I've seen - a bit small though - needs to be bigger.

I think it kind of looks like a Rivian that dressed up as a Cybertruck for Halloween.
With big model 3 hubcaps.
Don’t get me wrong, I would buy it, but if I were asked to describe it…that’s what I’d say.

 

[Gaximus]

I'd rock this CyberSUV!

That just looks like a run of the mill Kia or Honda EV. It somehow doesn’t have a Cybertruck look or a Tesla look.

 

[eousphoros]

A cybersuv is so meh, a cybercampervan would be fire though.

 

[Limes2]

No. Those are the kids ride on/in CT that they sell for $1500.

 

[REM]

A cybersuv is so meh, a cybercampervan would be fire though.

I would buy both, but the van would be ... 🤌

 

[devdrone6]

I think it kind of looks like a Rivian that dressed up as a Cybertruck for Halloween.
With big model 3 hubcaps.
Don’t get me wrong, I would buy it, but if I were asked to describe it…that’s what I’d say.

Having never really paid attention to Rivian, I had to go see and yup I agree.

I all seriousness since Tesla has said they won’t use the exoskeleton anymore - I doubt it will look like a CT.

 

[henchman24]

Having never really paid attention to Rivian, I had to go see and yup I agree.

I all seriousness since Tesla has said they won’t use the exoskeleton anymore - I doubt it will look like a CT.

Just for clarity, Tesla said they won't use Stainless Steel Exoskeleton and air bending of stainless steel in future products. Not that they won't use an exoskeleton with paint or other stamping/finishing processes.

Now I don't think this will get made for purely volume reasons.

 

[ABILISK]

I would guess they’d use Cybercab-like panels that aren’t painted in a traditional way but are paint infused. So only one color option, most likely that goldish color.

It isn’t like Tesla to leave something in the background of a video that they don’t want there. If this was some customer video from the recent “open house” I’d say no way is this being built, but this was from Tesla’s own master plan video. It wasn’t a mistake, it was foreshadowing.

 

[YDR37]

If this was some customer video from the recent “open house” I’d say no way is this being built, but this was from Tesla’s own master plan video. It wasn’t a mistake, it was foreshadowing.

That's not the message I get from Tesla's Master Plan Part IV. What I hear is: "Tesla no longer wants to develop vehicles with steering wheels."

Master Plan IV does mention S3XY vehicles, but only in the past tense, and it does not explicitly mention the Cybertruck at all:

Our first step was to make an exciting sports car—Roadster. Then we leveraged those profits to fund the development and production of more affordable, yet still exciting products—Model S and Model X. Then we repeated the process, bringing us to Model 3 and Model Y and onward.

According to MP IV, autonomous vehicles are the future. Tesla's plan is "redefining" mobility. This means Cybercab and Robovan. It doesn't mean a CyberSUV.

Autonomous vehicles have the capacity to dramatically improve the affordability, availability and safety of transportation while reducing pollution, particularly in our increasingly dense global cities. ... The tools we are going to develop will help us build the kind of world that we've always dreamed of — a world of sustainable abundance — by redefining the fundamental building blocks of labor, mobility and energy at scale and for all.

I could see Tesla eventually releasing the new Roadster, but I doubt they have any other new non-autonomous vehicles in the pipeline. Earlier this year, Lars Moravy (Tesla's VP of Engineering) indicated that the Roadster would be the last drivable Tesla:

We spent a lot of time last few years rethinking what we did and why we did it, and what would make an awesome and exciting, last, best driver's car ... Given where Tesla is going with autonomy, we know that it's a swan song.

 

[dalton108]

That's not the message I get from Tesla's Master Plan Part IV. What I hear is: "Tesla no longer wants to develop vehicles with steering wheels."

Master Plan IV does mention S3XY vehicles, but only in the past tense, and it does not explicitly mention the Cybertruck at all:
According to MP IV, autonomous vehicles are the future. Tesla's plan is "redefining" mobility. This means Cybercab and Robovan. It doesn't mean a CyberSUV.
I could see Tesla eventually releasing the new Roadster, but I doubt they have any other new non-autonomous vehicles in the pipeline. Earlier this year, Lars Moravy (Tesla's VP of Engineering) indicated that the Roadster would be the last drivable Tesla:

I agree. I think there’s only a few things that you can say from the video and these models appearing in it: It wasn’t accidental, and if it was in anyway unplanned, it was approved after the fact.

Beyond that, I have no idea what it means. Hence the, “Maeby.”

 

[henchman24]

While autonomy opens up a lot of revenue and margin potential, we are a decade or more away from it being able to replace the volume needed to justify large assembly lines and factories. Tesla has to sell drivable vehicles in the meantime and will continue to sell them for a long, long time. Especially considering the regulatory issues that come with autonomy where gov'ts will be incredibly behind the technology. Tesla still can't get FSD in Europe today... we're probably talking in the decades before Europe has wide scale autonomy.

So while drivable cars are going to be diminished moving forward, we are a long time from them being phased out. At Tesla's scale, we're talking about ~3m robotaxis that need replaced per year, on vehicles that have useful lives of likely ~6 years. The network would need to be in the realm of 18m autonomous vehicles to support that level. As a point of reference, Uber has less than 8m drivers globally and they clearly don't work full time. Even if you cut those numbers in half, the amount of of users needed to be at the scale that Tesla wants is massive. There is unlikley to be enough volume anytime soon to fully replace drivable vehicles.

TLDR To keep the factories going and the costs down, Tesla will need to produce and sell drivable vehicles for a long time. Until we're to the point they are ~2-3x the size of Uber today.

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