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Lemon laws depend upon your state, so that's going to vary alot.

https://www.doj.state.or.us/consumer-protection/motor-vehicles/lemon-law/

Oregon has some pretty good ones, but it needs to be in the shop for 30 days.

The rest of your questions seem difficult to answer, as they're kinda not great grammatically?

I can certainly understand your frustration with the CEO. But there are a hundred thousand other people who work at Tesla.

-Crissa
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According to the OP, he has read the lemon law, to which the vehicle fulfilled the criteria, and Tesla has agreed that it’s a ‘lemon’ although they sure tried to dispute that. Take the blinders off.

Unless the OP is a liar, of course. But you’d have to prove otherwise.
You may want to reread the OP post again.

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Folks, lemon laws don't really apply after a buyback has been agreed to.
 

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Here is the "proof" for those of you assuming I'm lieing.
I also did mention I've had 2 motors as well as new tires, new wiper blade motor, new drivers door and mirror and they have had my truck 48 days and 5 visits.

I appreciate the actual feedback not criticism of my grammar etc. this is why I stopped using the forum when I got the truck too many "experts" who don't even own the truck.
With your more complete list of items, I definitely agree with the manager. It appears that all items were taken care of, even the cosmetic ones.

I'm guessing new tires because of hubcap rubbing.
New wiper blade because of recall
Drivers door and mirror probably cosmetic
2 motors indeed an issue and seemingly repaired.

It appears as if half of your issues exist on all Cybertrucks.
 
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I have done lemon law once in Florida and it was easy... after I got a lawyer. I do not think you need to do that though.

That message you just copied is as clear as day what steps you need to take. They will likely deduct milage from the payback though. It looks like they will even cover taxes because they are offering to payback previous payments and the full loan (taxes should be in the financed amount.)

Just follow the steps, get paid and move on.

If you want an electric truck, I recommend the GMC Denali, or Rivian for comparable options.
Thanks for the suggestions, I'm out looking at replacement vehicles now.

I just wanted clarification on what value they asses that buyback off of seeing as how we paid a $20k premium for the soon to come features. Am I out that cost?
 
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With your more complete list of items, I definitely agree with the manager. It appears that all items were taken care of, even the cosmetic ones.

I'm guessing new tires because of hubcap rubbing.
New wiper blade because of recall
Drivers door and mirror probably cosmetic
2 motors indeed an issue and seemingly repaired.

It appears as if half of your issues exist on all Cybertrucks.
I can't "show" a forum mechanical concerns really. I can show the cosmetic concerns. I'm sorry I won't accept them as "features" in an 80k "luxury" car. Especially when I know celebrities and others aren't getting these same answers or results when they are customers.

The new motor still makes a chirping sound. It also slips when accelerating. Mind you they claimed it wasn't bad until they got another CT in and compared it. After I paid for excess charging for months because I was sucking battery life, and they didn't believe me.

The new wiper is worse than the previous, I live in a rainy area. They kinked the hose when changing it and say that they don't have a way to not kink it, but that fluid does flow. I'm not risking my life to try and take a photo of proof for the Internet, but I have one that shows the general pattern even after just using washer fluid.

The dash panel is not fixed after they damaged it installing a new top dash panel, which is now torn again after they "fixed" it last time.

The rims they damaged when changing the tires that were worn due to alignment being off, were damaged again and never re ordered.

They installed a new headliner due to missing clips, and the dome light no longer works. They have no replacement parts as of now.

The windshield has a defect and they also didn't have a replacement but said they would work to get one, then later cancelled the service.

The front trim piece that flies off randomly on owners, was never fixed at any of the 5 service visits. They attempted and said they aligned all panels to specifics. Yet, the door now doesn't close unless I slam it and has started coming out of alignment again.

The door and mirror are because it wobbles and you can't see out of it. Due to not having a rearview mirror half the time and a rear camera you can't see anything out of either, makes it about safety not cosmetic concerns.

They had my truck 3 visits after just the pedal recall, knowing mine was loose. They only riveted it after I claimed it on the lemon claim.

Also they still do not have back up alerts or safety features that I have been promised multiple times and further keep getting delayed.

I also have been spat at, flipped off, attempted to be ran off the road, the truck kicked and much more, and not because of me. It's because of the CEO of the company. Just being a customer puts my safety at risk and that's not what I wanted or paid for.

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I can't "show" a forum mechanical concerns really. I can show the cosmetic concerns. I'm sorry I won't accept them as "features" in an 80k "luxury" car. Especially when I know celebrities and others aren't getting these same answers or results when they are customers.

The new motor still makes a chirping sound. It also slips when accelerating. Mind you they claimed it wasn't bad until they got another CT in and compared it. After I paid for excess charging for months because I was sucking battery life, and they didn't believe me.

The new wiper is worse than the previous, I live in a rainy area. They kinked the hose when changing it and say that they don't have a way to not kink it, but that fluid does flow. I'm not risking my life to try and take a photo of proof for the Internet, but I have one that shows the general pattern even after just using washer fluid.

The dash panel is not fixed after they damaged it installing a new top dash panel, which is now torn again after they "fixed" it last time.

The rims they damaged when changing the tires that were worn due to alignment being off, were damaged again and never re ordered.

They installed a new headliner due to missing clips, and the dome light no longer works. They have no replacement parts as of now.

The windshield has a defect and they also didn't have a replacement but said they would work to get one, then later cancelled the service.

The front trim piece that flies off randomly on owners, was never fixed at any of the 5 service visits. They attempted and said they aligned all panels to specifics. Yet, the door now doesn't close unless I slam it and has started coming out of alignment again.

The door and mirror are because it wobbles and you can't see out of it. Due to not having a rearview mirror half the time and a rear camera you can't see anything out of either, makes it about safety not cosmetic concerns.

They had my truck 3 visits after just the pedal recall, knowing mine was loose. They only riveted it after I claimed it on the lemon claim.

Also they still do not have back up alerts or safety features that I have been promised multiple times and further keep getting delayed.

I also have been spat at, flipped off, attempted to be ran off the road, the truck kicked and much more, and not because of me. It's because of the CEO of the company. Just being a customer puts my safety at risk and that's not what I wanted or paid for.

Makes me agree with the manager even more. Once you start putting blame on Elon it becomes quite obvious what needs to be done.
Sorry Tesla didn't work out for you. Time to move on.
 

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I also have been spat at, flipped off, attempted to be ran off the road, the truck kicked and much more, and not because of me. It's because of the CEO of the company.
Spit and/or kick back?

Just being a customer puts my safety at risk and that's not what I wanted or paid for.
That's just silly, now you're just trolling or spreading FUD.

I live in Alabama, nothing but thumbs up, interest, smiles, and kids crawling all over it taking selfies. Love it.
 

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You may want to reread the OP post again.

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Folks, lemon laws don't really apply after a buyback has been agreed to.
Are you saying is Tesla performing a lemon law buyback for cosmetics?
 

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Are you saying is Tesla performing a lemon law buyback for cosmetics?
It appears to me to be for customer dissatisfaction.

They'll probably recycle the truck for internal use or for test rides.
 

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Thanks for the suggestions, I'm out looking at replacement vehicles now.

I just wanted clarification on what value they asses that buyback off of seeing as how we paid a $20k premium for the soon to come features. Am I out that cost?
The base price Tesla promised to start from includes the options. As far as we know, they are not going off of resale value, unlike for other models.

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Yeah the Elon thing makes the credibility go out the window.

There is a guy in town that makes bad pizza?. Like really bad. If I wrote a review about his pizza complete and thorough. One could say that is an honest view of the pizza.
Yet if I said towards the end. He's a big jerk and I don't like the church that he goes to with all the political crap he talks about in town.

What does the reader think? Do they read about the pizza, or think I have an ? to grind? I do have many an axe, and I do love to sharpen them.

Just my two slices of thought for the day. I love pizza.
 

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That's just silly, now you're just trolling or spreading FUD.
Not everyone's level of safety is the same. Alabama has no protections for LGBTQ people, so while the odds are in their favor, their absolute safety would be lower.

Gotta let people protect themselves from harm. And unfortunately, people in high places like CEOs spouting off leads to enabling others to be less kind.

Yeah the Elon thing makes the credibility go out the window.
...And no, it doesn't. Let her protect herself from harm. He has his freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean anyone is required to listen to him - or restricted from using their own speech to hold him responsible.

We all should know he'd have violated the forum rules right out.

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...And no, it doesn't. Let her protect herself from harm. He has his freedom of speech, but that doesn't mean anyone is required to listen to him - or restricted from using their own speech to hold him responsible.

We all should know he'd have violated the forum rules right out.

-Crissa
Just like I have the freedom to say credibility went out the window. The two things have nothing to do with each other.

In the court of law it's either a lemon or it's not cut and dry. The attorney or the lawyer along with the judge would tell you that that's not what we're here to discuss today.

In the court of law, you do not have freedom of speech. Is not a forum to spout views. It is a forum to discuss legal matters and to come to a solution.

As the judge in the matter, I would say her she they please quiet yourself in the courtroom regarding personal feelings towards Mr. Musk. Continuing to do so will allow me to hold you in contempt of court.

Someone came here crying giving us half the story. Then giving us antidotes along the way dribbling out. Thus allowing them to spout their dissatisfaction with the real issue which is Mr. Musk.

As others have mentioned I have some of those same issues but I have fixed them myself. I find some of them trivial and very cosmetic. But yet with each post that person continues to spout the views that aren't relevant to the thread at hand.

Edit add.

I think what we have really is a case of buyer's remorse. And then using it to continually put the truck in the service shop once a few things went wrong to get out of wanting to buy the truck and own it.

If we recall the users history that they were on the fence and had a whole bunch of other things go wrong and it was a stretch at the first point to buy the truck in the beginning. Now that a couple things have gone wrong, they feel maybe I shouldn't have made this decision in the first place.

I can understand that a motor goes bad. A second motor goes bad. You're thinking I'm going to be stuck with a piece of junk and maybe I stretched a little far to begin with and I'm pissed. See maybe they just couldn't do it in the first place.
 
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Just like I have the freedom to say credibility went out the window. The two things have nothing to do with each other.

In the court of law it's either a lemon or it's not cut and dry. The attorney or the lawyer along with the judge would tell you that that's not what we're here to discuss today.

In the court of law, you do not have freedom of speech. Is not a forum to spout views. It is a forum to discuss legal matters and to come to a solution.
This isn't a court, and in Oregon, you don't need to go to a court to start a lemon law buyback.

The fact they haven't fixed her wiper yet over several months would easily qualify - I grew up in Oregon, you can't get far or long without working wipers.

We're here to give advice when we can, and sympathy when we can't. Hopefully she'll share her experience with the buyback and we'll be able to advise others who feel stuck like her.

-Crissa
 

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This isn't a court, and in Oregon, you don't need to go to a court to start a lemon law buyback.

The fact they haven't fixed her wiper yet over several months would easily qualify - I grew up in Oregon, you can't get far or long without working wipers.

We're here to give advice when we can, and sympathy when we can't. Hopefully she'll share her experience with the buyback and we'll be able to advise others who feel stuck like her.

-Crissa
Forgot one. Stop the spread of crap. I agree to disagree. The items were cosmetic, and users history comes into play. This is the court of public opinion. One comes here to spill it. Don't try to spin it along the way. I highly doubt she put in her application to start a lemon law buyback that she doesn't like Elon musk . So why do it here?
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