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Wheels: gratis. Interior upgrade: gratis. FSD: $12k Powershare hardware: $4-5k Software upgrades are not part of the calculation for receiving the tax incentive, and if they just declared the software costs to be $20k and the rest of the "options" (which we don't get, because they're standard...

Until Tesla is actually delivering to non-Tesla employees in 2024, we won't know if Tesla wiggled thier CT MSRP to accommodate the rebate. Enough of the "Foundation Edition" is software, or software based, that I think they may have something up their sleeve.

You know the whole "anything Musk says take with a grain of salt" thing? Goes both ways: overly optimistic predictions have gotten them in trouble before. I'd much rather Musk say "it'll take a bit to get fully implemented into the CT software" than have them say "2 weeks!"

I think it's most likely that the delivery event and few December deliveries were selected with great bias (mostly towards being Tesla employees), but there's pretty much no other "official" information to go off. I do seriously doubt that they have bias against potential new owners, but they...

Rain-X.

I didn't imply any negative connotation, anything inferred is by the reader.

Literally nobody is saying that, please don't be provocative. Again, not sure who or what you're responding to, but nothing I said had anything to do with that. Just indicating that the Cybertruck shown in the video was not a post-11/30 delivery. It's on a Tesla channel, I would expect it to...

"This line is too long! Everyone, get out of line so I can move up!"

RN112769154 here, placed order in the first tranche. Finished all my delivery steps, just waiting on delivery appointment. No VIN assigned, nothing beyond what other FE ordering folks have gotten.

Cool video, but not a lot of reason to believe it's anything other than another employee or Tesla CT being used for a marketing video.

I promise, I'm not try to be contrary or argumentative. My theory is that the "Founder's Edition" is a limited access model which the MSRP base could be the AWD CT with some premium options gratis for the long time reservation holders. If you have the ability to order an FE, then it could be...

The rebate goes to Tesla to our benefit. So when you're buying the car, they take the rebate when the purchase is made, and that money then goes to reduce the cost of the car.

You are correct in your thinking, but there are some caveats that, I think, make holding off until January 1 make sense. The first is that the cash burn is on-going with the Cybertruck, so introducing sales means shifting potential cost of goods sold against whatever their trax strategy was this...

The shot with the back seats folded up have me excited.

I think the 2019 reservations were $100, so people said "fuck it, I'll make a reservation." Foundation Series emails for $250 were probably same/similar "fuck it, why not?" I am guessing that they had SO MANY people who did $100 do the $250 that they (rightly) questioned if those reservations...

I'm 43, and I have sought to break free from fossil fuel-driven cars for over a decade. I had a VW TDI (bought back during Dieselgate), I've had a 2017 Model X, a 2019 Model X, and 2021 Model Y. Prior to Tesla, literally nobody took the alternative fuels market seriously. VW was drefrauding the...

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I really think they won't start scheduling deliveries until January 1. Maybe some of the earliest numbers will get delivery notifications around Christmas or NYE so they can pickup early January, but I think they're not actually delivering any yet. If the CT and Cyberbeast (somehow) qualify for...