You could have bought a 2022 Lightning or a 2023 Lightning. In September the 2024 should start to take orders.
Of course, I don't know much, but do own a 2023 Lightning to hold me over until Tesla FINALLY delivers CTs to buyers on the East Coast.....circa Christmas of 2025.
Understood.
And I think Elon recognizes this. He knows a lot of reservation holders will tap out once the "new and improved" price of the 2024 CyberTruck is announced.
I want both Tesla and Ford to do well in the "EV truck" market.
As consumers we need choices.
As far as Ford goes, they did make it to market about 2 years ahead of Tesla with an EV pickup. When the CyberTruck does finally come out it will of course leapfrog Ford, so then Ford will have...
Remember Tesla's initial intent was when they finished Giga Texas and started building Model Ys at that factory they would all have the 4680s.
Obviously they had to change course and reverse back to building them with 2170s (as well as some with 4680s).
I hope, hope, they have made progress on...
Since I don't expect many CTs built in 2023.....maybe only 5000 or so ....probably for employees...The 2024 model year to me is the first version.
Battery realities. NO ONE on planet earth currently has a lightweight, 500 mile range battery. Rivian now has a 400 mile range pickup....and the...
I agree with you.
Back in 2019, I reserved the 500 mile range Tri-Motor, and never gave thought to Tesla NOT being able to deliver on the 500 mile range.
Of course 4680 battery development and production ramp has been a real alligator for Tesla, so I don't know how they get close to 500...
It will all depend on the price point.
A $60,000 CyberTruck would really get everyone's attention.
A $89,900 CyberTruck at launch will have a sales spurt at first.....yet probably many will be NON current pickup truck owners....thus it won't cut into the pickup market as much IMO.
Let's...
"Lack of Charging Infrastruce"
This is a real thing. If you have driven any amount of distance, with a NON-Tesla EV, you have experienced issues at some point in your trips. Whether that is a 350 KwH charger only giving you 40-50 Kwh, or having to wait for a charger pod, or finding 3 out of 5...
Very true.
The CyberTruck, at least the 2023 version, might not be the answer.
A Pro version Ford Lightning, with 400+ range, and a palatable price would be, IMO.
If Tesla sells 2 million vehicles this year, and let's say 2.5-2.7+ million in 2024, the 250,000 Cybertucks they sell, or don't sell, per year won't move the stock too much, up or down.
It would be very interesting to know what Tesla's true cost of producing each CyberTruck turns out to be...
That Tesla Charging Network is amazing compared to the "public" charging network the rest of the average Joe has to use. I use/have used both. The difference is huge.
Since the original listed BASE price was $69,000 (for the TriMotor) I can't blame anyone for dropping out at $89,000.....let alone $110,000.
I think Elon knows this. The price is going to be "expensive" and he acknowledges that demand at $49,000 and $69,000 evaporates when the product now...
I know the theory was that Tesla would find a way to make the CyberTruck at a "cheaper" cost, because Tesla is Tesla. But I think this whole stainless steel, gigapresses, etc etc might be more expensive - at first.
Part of the cost has to be related to the battery(s). By now Tesla expected...
But, but GM built millions of the Cadillac Lyric in 2022.
Oh wait, I mean 100's of thousands.
No wait, I mean 122 were delivered in 2022!!
122.
Let's see how many EV Silverados they can give birth to in 2023.
If you buy the Rivian pickup R1T it is $90,000.
If you buy the Ford Lightning Lariat it is $89,900.
I reserved a 500 mile range Cybertruck in November 2019.
Yet I don't expect to see a 500 mile version available initially. The 4680 battery density/efficiency is not there yet. Hopefully in...