$50K Model Y vs $70K Cybertruck RWD vs $85K Model X

[carsly]

It's all a question of perspective.

If you're evaluating Tesla's base-spec 5 seat SUV's you've got three options at very different price points. The newly released Juniper Model Y LR, the newly released Cybertruck LR and the well-worn Model X AWD.

For a family of 3 or 4 people with little kids in an urban/suburban environment full of mall-crawling and car seats it's going to be tough to beat the new Y.

For a family of 4 or 5 people with teenagers in an urban/suburban environment full of kids sports equipment, travel teams, musical instruments and family holidays the Model X is the ticket, albeit the most expensive option.

For a family of 3-5, an adventurous couple (I'm looking at you Subaru buyers) who live in suburban/rural areas and like hiking, biking, skiing, camping and going off-grid the new LR Cybertruck fits nicely between the top options.

Look, we're all spoiled by the FS goodies, myself included, but then I looked at Audi's standard trims - Premium (base), Premium Plus (mid), and Prestige (high) and it's not terribly different. The base models typically have 2WD, standard lighting, only front heated seats (no ventilation and no rear heat), base audio (as does Rivian), etc.

BUT the base Cybertruck is a heck of a value compared to Model X. No fancy Falcon Wing doors to break, a heck of a lot more storage (and towing capability), still quite efficient at 3+mi/kwh, real-world range will likely be close to 400 miles if my FS AWD is any measure. Still have the panoramic glass roof, steer by wire, power frunk, power seats, 4 wheel steering, FSD on AI4, 120v power outlets inside and massive interior and bed space, still bullet-resistant, still stunning stainless steel, and it's still going to be an amazing highway cruiser.

BUT...it's not the right answer for everyone. I think compared against other 5 seat SUV's it's going to fare quite well. Think about a $80+K Polestar 3, BMW iX, Volvo EX90 or something similar. They are more luxury oriented, sure, but for pure function Cybertruck schools them all with Supercharging to boot. If you're eligible for the Federal credit (or lease passthrough), and have a referral code you're looking closer to $60K which is an amazing deal for this suite of technology and function that started at $100K just one year ago. Maybe this settles in as more of a work truck, and that's great too - not dissimilar from Rivian's EDV's to their R1 consumer platform.

Now if only the true three-row Cyber SUV were available...

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[Gigahorse]

It's all a question of perspective.

If you're evaluating Tesla's base-spec 5 seat SUV's you've got three options at very different price points. The newly released Juniper Model Y LR, the newly released Cybertruck LR and the well-worn Model X AWD.

For a family of 3 or 4 people with little kids in an urban/suburban environment full of mall-crawling and car seats it's going to be tough to beat the new Y.

For a family of 4 or 5 people with teenagers in an urban/suburban environment full of kids sports equipment, travel teams, musical instruments and family holidays the Model X is the ticket, albeit the most expensive option.

For a family of 3-5, an adventurous couple (I'm looking at you Subaru buyers) who live in suburban/rural areas and like hiking, biking, skiing, camping and going off-grid the new LR Cybertruck fits nicely between the top options.

Look, we're all spoiled by the FS goodies, myself included, but then I looked at Audi's standard trims - Premium (base), Premium Plus (mid), and Prestige (high) and it's not terribly different. The base models typically have 2WD, standard lighting, only front heated seats (no ventilation and no rear heat), base audio (as does Rivian), etc.

BUT the base Cybertruck is a heck of a value compared to Model X. No fancy Falcon Wing doors to break, a heck of a lot more storage (and towing capability), still quite efficient at 3+mi/kwh, real-world range will likely be close to 400 miles if my FS AWD is any measure. Still have the panoramic glass roof, steer by wire, power frunk, power seats, 4 wheel steering, FSD on AI4, 120v power outlets inside and massive interior and bed space, still bullet-resistant, still stunning stainless steel, and it's still going to be an amazing highway cruiser.

BUT...it's not the right answer for everyone. I think compared against other 5 seat SUV's it's going to fare quite well. Think about a $80+K Polestar 3, BMW iX, Volvo EX90 or something similar. They are more luxury oriented, sure, but for pure function Cybertruck schools them all with Supercharging to boot. If you're eligible for the Federal credit (or lease passthrough), and have a referral code you're looking closer to $60K which is an amazing deal for this suite of technology and function that started at $100K just one year ago. Maybe this settles in as more of a work truck, and that's great too - not dissimilar from Rivian's EDV's to their R1 consumer platform.

Now if only the true three-row Cyber SUV were available...

Interesting point of view, the one thing I would mention is. Have you sat in the back middle seat of the CT? It is badddddd compared to other Tesals. So I consider the CT a 4 seater with an emergency 5th seat for a short trip if someone needs a ride.

 

[carsly]

Interesting point of view, the one thing I would mention is. Have you sat in the back middle seat of the CT? It is badddddd compared to other Tesals. So I consider the CT a 4 seater with an emergency 5th seat for a short trip if someone needs a ride.

I've owned all three - Y, X and Cybertruck - and sat in the back seats of all of them.

The rear-middle seat of the X only works if you're shorter than 5'5" tall other wise you run into head space issues with the support beam for the falcon wing doors. The rear-middle seat of the Y is pretty tight width-wise but has okay leg space. The rear-middle of the Cybertruck is, by far, the widest with the biggest feel for headroom. It also has the greatest legroom of the three with a more natural seating position as it's a bit higher up from the floor. It's a true three-seater in the back whereas X and Y are tighter due to being narrower (and not as long).

We had a Model S Plaid that I traded in on the CT, primarily because we have three teenage boys and they fit best with all their arms and legs in the rear of the Cybertruck. The extra width and length makes a big difference, just wish the rear seats had even a little more recline. The no heat in the rear middle of the CT though, why?

 

[devdrone6]

Now if only the true three-row Cyber SUV were available...

I'd buy this in a heartbeat - minus the pop-out door handle

 

[carsly]

I'd buy this in a heartbeat - minus the pop-out door handle

Grok was really fighting me on the image generation. Did NOT want to add a back to the Cybertruck. I tried to get it to reshape that back window with no luck.

 

[BlueLightning]

Sounds like all three need just a 7 passenger van.

Room to grow.

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