Cerebrum Sensors

[JCERRN]

I’m just saying that the new plan the marketing department came up with is logistically quite complicated for service to have to provide and any automation is probably welcome. No part yes? But using the service centers to keep up with every single out of car-warranty tire in the wild that still has a Tesla commitment attached to it is also not that small of a thing. Even warranty cars don’t have “required” service intervals as far as I know. They just come in for complaints which some customers may not ever have .

Eh not really. I used to bring my subaru in for service intervals to a local dealer. Same with my mustang. Most cars have prescribed service intervals. Usually involves an oil and filter change, cabin air filter, then various fluid and suspension parts intervals, as well as wear component inspections. Usually costs in the hundreds of $ to get done though.

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[hemiarch]

Eh not really. I used to bring my subaru in for service intervals to a local dealer. Same with my mustang. Most cars have prescribed service intervals. Usually involves an oil and filter change, cabin air filter, then various fluid and suspension parts intervals, as well as wear component inspections. Usually costs in the hundreds of $ to get done though.

Well. I don’t know why they are doing it. Just speculating like all the rest of you I’ll wait to hear how some pushy genius in here managed to get the SC to give them a new set of tires for it. Then it’ll become legit interesting.

 

[Coolhandz]

A bit of an update for anybody watching this thread.

I spoke with a gentleman by the name of Keith with Cerebrum Sensor Technologies today and learned a few things. Keith stated that the sensors installed from the factory for the CT tires are only redundant TPMS sensors as far he knows as they do not have the hardware for measuring other stats. The aftermarket sensors which you can buy from their website and have installed will read more data such as temp, slippage, weight, etc, but will only read it through the IOS app (Android coming in a few weeks). None of that data is read to the vehicle at this time. Keith stated that their product roadmap is leading them that way towards vehicle integration, but they are not there yet. So you can transfer the sensors or just use the TPMS sensors on the valve stem when getting new tires.

 

[esqtom]

From Grok i have attached a table. This is allegedly what all the sensors are capable of measuring, but it is not clear what data the CT uses. That, to me, is the biggest question. If they are only measuring pressure and that is what the CT uses, then may as well switch to just a regular TPMS and save a few bucks.

Parameter	Description
Tire Pressure	Tracks internal air pressure to detect under-inflation or leaks, complementing the vehicle's TPMS.
Tire Temperature	Measures heat buildup in the tire, which can indicate issues like overloading or friction.
Tread Depth/Wear	Assesses tire tread health and remaining life, helping predict when replacement is needed.
Tire Load	Calculates the weight distribution and load on each tire for better handling and suspension adjustments.
Camber Alignment	Monitors wheel alignment (tilt relative to vertical), flagging potential issues that affect steering and tire wear.
Road Surface Conditions	Detects road quality, such as roughness, slipperiness, or hazards, to inform driver assistance systems.

My back tires show significant wear at 8000 miles, and I have never received notifications regarding alignment, low pressure, temperature, alignment, etc.

 

[TyPope]

I've read through this thread and I'll toss my speculation into the ring. These sensors are only necessary with Tesla sold tires because they are used to detect tire position for warranty related claims where lack of tire rotation is suspected. Simply put, they are the airtags of tires.

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cerebrum intelligent tire sensors

That's BLE --> Bluetooth Low Energy

I still don't know WHY you'd want to keep the sensors but you CAN. I'd actually recommend to everyone changing tires to ask for the sensors from your old tires so you'd have them just in case.

Who here can't see the next finding:
"Actual Smart Summon now available to all Tesla Vehicles utilizing the BLE Tire Sensors..."

 

[Coolhandz]

I've read through this thread and I'll toss my speculation into the ring. These sensors are only necessary with Tesla sold tires because they are used to detect tire position for warranty related claims where lack of tire rotation is suspected. Simply put, they are the airtags of tires.

OR

cerebrum intelligent tire sensors

That's BLE --> Bluetooth Low Energy

I still don't know WHY you'd want to keep the sensors but you CAN. I'd actually recommend to everyone changing tires to ask for the sensors from your old tires so you'd have them just in case.

Who here can't see the next finding:
"Actual Smart Summon now available to all Tesla Vehicles utilizing the BLE Tire Sensors..."

Per Cerebrum, these are only redundant TPMS sensors. They lack the full functionality of their other sensors. You can verify this by placing your phone near your tires and searching bluetooth for available devices. If the sensor shows up, then it is the advanced version with the full sensor suite that can read temp, rotation, wear, etc. If the sensor does not show up, then it is the TPMS only version. If you can see the sensors and have IOS, then you can read all that data using their app.

 

[TyPope]

Per Cerebrum, these are only redundant TPMS sensors. They lack the full functionality of their other sensors. You can verify this by placing your phone near your tires and searching bluetooth for available devices. If the sensor shows up, then it is the advanced version with the full sensor suite that can read temp, rotation, wear, etc. If the sensor does not show up, then it is the TPMS only version. If you can see the sensors and have IOS, then you can read all that data using their app.

I didn't think they had all the functionality. I also don't think they would duplicate TPMS function which is already duplicated with the stem TPMS. Tell me that the car can't tell how many times it rotates a tire already. No, these sensors are probably either for positional data (where is each tire?) or are passive tread depth sensors.

Valve stem TPMS sends rotational and tire pressure info and maybe locational data. The Cerebrum sensors MAY be redundant location sensors. It doesn't make sense to include Cerebrum sensors to triplicate pressure sensors. Porche has been monitoring tire pressure since 1986 without sensors, just software.

 

[Coolhandz]

I didn't think they had all the functionality. I also don't think they would duplicate TPMS function which is already duplicated with the stem TPMS. Tell me that the car can't tell how many times it rotates a tire already. No, these sensors are probably either for positional data (where is each tire?) or are passive tread depth sensors.

Valve stem TPMS sends rotational and tire pressure info and maybe locational data. The Cerebrum sensors MAY be redundant location sensors. It doesn't make sense to include Cerebrum sensors to triplicate pressure sensors. Porche has been monitoring tire pressure since 1986 without sensors, just software.

I called and spoke with an engineer at Cerebrum. He said the Cybertruck does not have the hardware necessary to read any of the other data the advanced sensors could provide.

I get it, it doesn't really make sense to have them simply for another form of redundancy, but it would seem that is all these are for. If they read other data, Tesla would push customers to transfer them to new tires or buy new ones when getting a different brand of tires. If the truck read these sensors, there would also be notifications for low tread or potentially error messages if they are not communicating. I see the advanced sensors as being a great potential tool for handling and safety, but they are not being utilized in this way as Tesla would push them on their customers more. As it is, I don't think Tesla has made one mention of these sensors anywhere that I have found.

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