Lifetime FSD after February 14 (for used cars)?

[misdemeanor]

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[HaulingAss]

If the vehicle ever went through Tesla (most do) they strip the FSD off when selling to the dealer. Often times the dealer didn't know and there was a lot of angry used car buyers.

It makes zero sense the buyer would be angry because cars without FSD don't claim they have FSD. If Tesla stripped the FSD before they sold the car, it would show up to the buyer as a car without FSD.

Why would any buyer think they were buying a car with FSD if Tesla had already stripped FSD before they sold it? And, if Tesla forgot to strip FSD before it was sold, they would have no right to strip it after the sale (unless it had been clearly disclosed the car they were selling didn't have FSD).

 

[HaulingAss]

Its such a scummy business practice to remove a feature paid for in full and attached to a VIN.

Huh? That's like saying it would be a scummy business practice for a car lot to remove any feature of a car before re-selling it. The car lot owns the vehicles they buy, they can remove tires/wheels, take the engine out (and sell it without an engine) or remove whatever they want before they resell it. Because they paid for it and they own it.

The right thing to do would be to attach to a VIN for the life of a vehicle. Or attach the FSD license to a driver.

If you owned the company, you could certainly chose to do that. But Tesla can chose to sell the products they develop and manufacture in any manner they wish. If you don't like it, buy a product from a manufacturer who offers what you want. Shaming Tesla for only offering their products under their terms is just weird. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.

 

[Pops]

Huh? That's like saying it would be a scummy business practice for a car lot to remove any feature of a car before re-selling it. The car lot owns the vehicles they buy, they can remove tires/wheels, take the engine out (and sell it without an engine) or remove whatever they want before they resell it. Because they paid for it and they own it.

In my opinion your analogy doesn't not exactly match what is happening. The original owner commissioned and paid for the feature in full. Tesla removing it is simply a destruction of value. They are in their right to do it, obviously, but its scummy.

My bigger issue is that it artificially flat lines the perceived value of used Teslas. What is the cost difference between a used Tesla with FSD and without FSD? $0 because Tesla sells the majority of them and they nuke the FSD.

You are right that I chose who I do business with. That does not mean that I have to be pleased with every business decision they make. Some could impact me at the time of purchase, some can affect me in the future. There is no such thing has a 100% conflict free purchase from any company, if you make enough considerations.

 

[SCTesla]

It makes zero sense the buyer would be angry because cars without FSD don't claim they have FSD. If Tesla stripped the FSD before they sold the car, it would show up to the buyer as a car without FSD.

Why would any buyer think they were buying a car with FSD if Tesla had already stripped FSD before they sold it? And, if Tesla forgot to strip FSD before it was sold, they would have no right to strip it after the sale (unless it had been clearly disclosed the car they were selling didn't have FSD).

There have been many cases where dealers list cars with FSD and have screen shots from the Auction. When the person buys the car, there's no FSD, only to find out the dealer purchased the car through an auction which stripped the FSD.

It was a bigger deal a few years ago when it seemed to occur regularly.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/im-a-dealer-and-tesla-removed-my-cars-fsd.231124/

There are many of these stories. Some with pictures and some without.

It appears the issue is Tesla doesn't remove the FSD until it's sold, so pictures and even when they can view the car, they see it has FSD.

 

[no%X#XMVk65v#cq]

There have been many cases where dealers list cars with FSD and have screen shots from the Auction. When the person buys the car, there's no FSD, only to find out the dealer purchased the car through an auction which stripped the FSD.

It was a bigger deal a few years ago when it seemed to occur regularly.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/im-a-dealer-and-tesla-removed-my-cars-fsd.231124/

There are many of these stories. Some with pictures and some without.

It appears the issue is Tesla doesn't remove the FSD until it's sold, so pictures and even when they can view the car, they see it has FSD.

How exactly would an auction strip a used Tesla of FSD? Regardless of how the car changes hands, it's Tesla that transfers ownership in their system. It seems that moment is when FSD is either transferred or isn't.

 

[SCTesla]

How exactly would an auction strip a used Tesla of FSD? Regardless of how the car changes hands, it's Tesla that transfers ownership in their system. It seems that moment is when FSD is either transferred or isn't.

All of these cases Tesla entered the car in the auction, i.e. someone traded in their car to Tesla.

Pictures and even the walkthrough show FSD, but when the dealer gets it, no FSD. Many of the cases the dealers don't check and it's the used owner who finds out, but some like the one posted, the dealer noticed when they received the car.

 

[HaulingAss]

There have been many cases where dealers list cars with FSD and have screen shots from the Auction. When the person buys the car, there's no FSD, only to find out the dealer purchased the car through an auction which stripped the FSD.

It was a bigger deal a few years ago when it seemed to occur regularly.

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/im-a-dealer-and-tesla-removed-my-cars-fsd.231124/

There are many of these stories. Some with pictures and some without.

It appears the issue is Tesla doesn't remove the FSD until it's sold, so pictures and even when they can view the car, they see it has FSD.

Sigh, that's false advertising by the dealer. Tesla doesn't control how dealers advertise the cars.

 

[SCTesla]

Sigh, that's false advertising by the dealer. Tesla doesn't control how dealers advertise the cars.

It's false advertising by Tesla and the Auction house. The Auction House wouldn't know that Tesla would remove the FSD post sale. I assume you didn't read the thread posted.

The car was advertised with FSD during the Auction and when he won it, there was no FSD.

 

[Outdoors]

It makes zero sense the buyer would be angry because cars without FSD don't claim they have FSD. If Tesla stripped the FSD before they sold the car, it would show up to the buyer as a car without FSD.

Why would any buyer think they were buying a car with FSD if Tesla had already stripped FSD before they sold it? And, if Tesla forgot to strip FSD before it was sold, they would have no right to strip it after the sale (unless it had been clearly disclosed the car they were selling didn't have FSD).

Huh? That's like saying it would be a scummy business practice for a car lot to remove any feature of a car before re-selling it. The car lot owns the vehicles they buy, they can remove tires/wheels, take the engine out (and sell it without an engine) or remove whatever they want before they resell it. Because they paid for it and they own it.



If you owned the company, you could certainly chose to do that. But Tesla can chose to sell the products they develop and manufacture in any manner they wish. If you don't like it, buy a product from a manufacturer who offers what you want. Shaming Tesla for only offering their products under their terms is just weird. Nobody is forcing you to buy it.

Wipe the chin. Here is Elon's rag.

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