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Is the roof / windshield light bar gone?

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I just noticed that pictures on the older prototype have the light bar up top, but he newer version (with wiper) don't seem to show it. Does anyone know, or have a strong guess, if it's gone? I couldn't find anything in the search or I'm using the wrong terms.
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This is something I wanted most to stay, but I'm not sure it will. Sad if it's not.
 

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It's not terribly useful for driving, but it certainly does look cool and would have use at camp and offroad. For driving it has the problem of attracting/reflecting off of bugs and fog in your most immediate visual space. So it could be seen as a safety risk.

I hope they include it.

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It's not terribly useful for driving, but it certainly does look cool and would have use at camp and offroad. For driving it has the problem of attracting/reflecting off of bugs and fog in your most immediate visual space. So it could be seen as a safety risk.

I hope they include it.

-Crissa
They won't include it if it's a safety risk and doesn't work well. But I don't see reflections as being a problem if it's designed properly.
 


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They won't include it if it's a safety risk and doesn't work well. But I don't see reflections as being a problem if it's designed properly.
Well, if there's fog or bugs, they'd light up right in your face.

That's why lights are best closest to the road as possible.

I don't see any way around that risk.

-Crissa
 

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Well, if there's fog or bugs, they'd light up right in your face.

That's why lights are best closest to the road as possible.

I don't see any way around that risk.

-Crissa
I was thinking the light cover might block the illuminated portion of the glass from the driver's field of vision. I know that light can reflect around inside of glass but I'm thinking the light beam will be at such a sharp angle to the windshield glass that it might not reflect into the windshield glass.
 

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I was thinking the light cover might block the illuminated portion of the glass from the driver's field of vision. I know that light can reflect around inside of glass but I'm thinking the light beam will be at such a sharp angle to the windshield glass that it might not reflect into the windshield glass.
Yeah, that's possible.

...But doesn't help things outside the truck between the driver and the road surface that aren't obstacles, like rain, fog, dust, insects... lighting them up doesn't help.

-Crissa
 
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Yeah, that's possible.

...But doesn't help things outside the truck between the driver and the road surface that aren't obstacles like rain, fog, dust, insects... lighting them up doesn't help.

-Crissa
Absolutely. Which is a disadvantage of all roof-mounted off-road lights. They are best left off in fog and snow but they can still be useful in rain.
 

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It's clear it would be deemed "Off Road Use Only", but to have them already installed and not need to go aftermarket for a similar flush design would be mint!! Add a set of rock crawler lights in the wheel well and you are complete!
 


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Well, if there's fog or bugs, they'd light up right in your face.

That's why lights are best closest to the road as possible.

I don't see any way around that risk.

-Crissa
ooooo.......lighting bugs......no need for light bar
 

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If the F-150 Lightning is the truck to beat, then Tesla has no real challenges.

I have a 2010 F-150 gasoline truck and the lighting is particularly offensive. The headlights are shamefully ineffective while still creating above average glare for oncoming drivers, the bed has a bright light at the top rear edge of the cab (about eye-level) that turns on everytime the truck is parked and can't be turned off. While it does light up the bed more than adequately, it also creates excessive glare if you are at the rear of the truck looking into the bed. Worse, it cannot be adjusted or shut off and it remains illuminated for an excessive amount of time after leaving the vehicle, draining the battery (along with all the other lights that remain on throughout the truck). If you need to retreive an item from the truck a few minutes later, opening any door starts this cycle once again. The whole truck lights up like a christmas tree, but with excessive glare.

I've asked the dealer to reprogram the behavior, but they claim they are helpless to change it. The truck goes through batteries faster than any other vehicle I've ever owned. Granted, the Lightning will have an entirely new lighting design, I just hope it was not designed by the same team.

Every lighting system has it's own personality and the F-150 is particularly crass. I like my vehicles to glow softly so I can avoid objects around the vehicle and locate items in the bed. When it comes to non-driving lights, brighter is not better, these are lights that will be used in dark areas and at campsites so it's important to have low glare in your eyes and avoid trashing your night vision for the next half hour. Soft, evenly distributed light, without glare, wins night lighting every time. This is important to me because I live far enough north that the darkness of night comprises the bulk of the winter and daylight is relatively short.

The Cybertruck looks to have an all-around soft glow to it which is exactly what I'm looking for to preserve my night vision so I can still see things in the distance.
 

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My 2000 Ranger now has LED light though out and it makes a big difference. They are much brighter, but I am filtering them with gels like in theater. the interior dome is still white, but I am using a blue tint and my try a red on the other interior lights. I have ordered color changing LEDs for the bed that will let me vary intensity and color.
The head lights, marker and turn signals are all LED and I like the better vision with the LEDs but I have to admit the glare is greater for oncoming cars.
Hopefully the control of all the light can be managed. Having the ability to personalize these aspects of your vehicle are something I expect ore of.
 

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Since Teslas can "see" the road in front of themselves, it would be neat if they could automatically adjust the aim of the headlights to just illuminate your lane and only so far ahead (in traffic). I mean, a couple of motorized headlight mounts and some controlling software and there you go. LEDs also could be used to do fancy illumination tricks like pedestrian crosswalks, shadowing out other cars so drivers don't get blinded, etc.
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