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just checked works fine for me. does anyone with apple watch app work without pressing buttons? like the phone version?
I’ve always had to bring up the Tesla watch app and tell it to unlock.

I’m guessing the watch or watch app behaves differently to save limited power (much smaller battery).

Fine by me, watch is mostly backup anyway, and I’d rather save power than have a bit more convenience.
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I’ve always had to bring up the Tesla watch app and tell it to unlock.

I’m guessing the watch or watch app behaves differently to save limited power (much smaller battery).

Fine by me, watch is mostly backup anyway, and I’d rather save power than have a bit more convenience.
Makes sense. Good point about battery.
 

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Fwiw, I haven’t had any battery issues on my Apple Watch 10 whilst using the Tesla app ever since it was released by Tesla some months ago.
 

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Yeah I don’t have any issues with the Apple Watch either. It works just like my phone. I might have to press the door open button twice on the CT if I only have the Apple Watch. But it mostly works the same as a key for me. I also have the Ultra 2 watch, so I don’t know if that make a difference or not.
 

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Fine by me, watch is mostly backup anyway, and I’d rather save power than have a bit more convenience.
Apple says you need to charge the watch every day. Is that really true?

I can't imagine using a key "backup" with such a short battery lifespan. Because life happens. I use my phone for proximity unlock and keep a keycard in my wallet (next to my credit and debit cards) because that's something I always have with me when I leave home and there is no battery to die. If I go swimming, I just put the keycard in my swimming trunks. A ring with embedded chip from a keycard would be a good solution too, but I haven't felt the need.
 


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In my case key cards do not work on both 13.2.4.2 nor on 13.2.4.5. Just discovered that key cards don't work to lock/unlock CT as I have been using my phone since I had received the car.
Going to check my key cards once my update finishes as well. Based on what I've read so far, there still hasn't been a fix for this. Disappointing they haven't acknowledged the issue yet.
 

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Apple says you need to charge the watch every day. Is that really true?
Depending on the model, yes. The Ultra 2 supposedly (I have the Ultra 1) can do 36 hours, or 72 in low power mode.

It's not a huge hardship to charge regularly. Push come to shove, take a charger with you for longer trips. You can even get little power packs for charging the watch from.

A new iPhone may be able to last a few days. But as the battery ages, I wouldn't count on that either. So charge everything regularly rather than trying to wear or carry 24/7. If you let them do what they try to do, only charge to full when your routine suggests it's necessary, the batteries should hold up better.
 

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Not only do I usually have to open the Tesla app I also have to select the correct vehicle. If the last vehicle selected in the app was my S even if I open the app my CB doesn’t recognize it. Vice versa and the same across all of our Teslas.

App opened and the specific car that you want to work with selected. For some reason that happens occasionally with my phone too but it’s not the normal behavior like it is for the watch.
 

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It's not a huge hardship to charge regularly. Push come to shove, take a charger with you for longer trips. You can even get little power packs for charging the watch from.
I'm taking into account the possibility of getting locked out of my truck at a trailhead, where there is no power. Say you go on a day climb and take a fall and sprain your ankle or break your phone, or the weather changes and you need to bivouac overnight, or you cross a lake in a canoe and afternoon winds turn unfavorable for crossing back, or you go on a mountain bike ride and break a wheel 20 miles into your ride, or you shoot a prize elk but don't get a clean kill and need to track it for six hours, etc. lots of things could delay your return to your truck by a day, it could even involve a spontaneous fling.

Relying on batteries that only have 20 hours of life left in them, when you leave your truck, is like having a ticking time bomb. Especially if you need to drive yourself to the hospital when you finally get back to your truck.

It just seems foolish to not have a key that doesn't rely on short-lived batteries as the backup. Additionally, keycards and keyrings use a different entry system than Bluetooth devices use. So if something fails in the truck, like the Bluetooth module/antenna, however unlikely, you can still gain entry and drive it. That hardware redundancy makes it a better back-up right there.

When I'm in the backcountry I'm already at a certain level of risk and I don't want to take the chance that an unfortunate series of two or three events compounds the dangers I must overcome. I want a relatively bombproof certainty that my backup device that enables my truck isn't the weak link. Keycards and keyrings serve that purpose reliably enough that I only need to bring a single backup device to assure a very high certainty it's going to work.
 

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I carry a key card too, wouldn't want to depend on anything that uses a battery, whether it's watch for a day or so or phone for (hopefully) a few days - even though I don't go off into the boonies for days. So far they work (although it took a few tries to pair the stainless steel card). Hopefully the key card reader problem (which would presumably apply to an NFC ring too) gets fully understood and widely solved (firmware update or recall) and/or doesn't affect me. SOMETHING has to work reliably.
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