Cybertruck will have low sales regardless of the price IMHO

[ABILISK]

Tell me that you’ve never been in a Tesla without telling me you’ve never been in a Tesla

He doesn’t even know there are internal door latches in addition to the buttons ?

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[rlhamil]

Oh, geez, the PT was ugly, uncomfortable, and was sluggish and everyone I knew who had one drove like Mr Wheeler from the Goofy cartoon!

I think the saving grace for the Cybertruck is that it's hard to damage. Elon is... umm... a problem, but the vehicle will prove itself over time. If he lets it get cheap enough.

-Crissa

The GT (which I had) wasn't sluggish, esp. with a manual and Hurst shifter.

It did need a limited slip upgrade, which I never got; otherwise it would pull to one side if trying to floor it at a green light.

 

[rlhamil]

I think people that bought the CT in 2024 were never really truck buyers or people that are not using their CTs for work.

Not the first truck I've had, although the first full size. I drove a full size station wagon decades ago, but not regularly anything this large since then.

Admittedly I rarely do truck things (haul stuff, tow, off-road); less as the years make that sort of activity more difficult for me. But IMO a whole lot of truck owners rarely do truck things either, esp. not at long range. Hauling is something most probably do a little (furniture, appliances, bulk supplies); and I don't hate a locked bed with some temperature proof SHTF supplies kept back there, but still plenty of room for most things I'd be willing to try to wrestle in and out.

(good old boys should spend more time in church learning not to complain about what other people do, IMO)

There are definitely people using their CTs for work; some examples on here if you look around. Probably mostly in the burbs rather than the boonies (so not really long distances), and where chargers are relatively plentiful.

If there were more chargers in the boonies, they'd probably be fine there too. Range is an over-rated concern unless you're towing; and unless you're have to cram in as many miles a day as you're allowed to, a half hour break every few hours for nature and a sandwich and stretching the legs isn't a bad idea anyway; in some cases, it's required.

In some areas, lack of service centers and scarcity of chargers is a legitimate concern.

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

Utter nonsense. There are hundreds of different tradesmen alone who would benefit greatly from having a low total cost of ownership + high range of capabilities.

MY definition of a work truck:

Something that can haul heavy machinery as in up to 30k lbs:

I live in the Rockies. Lots of folks here place this 1400lb hydraulic plow on the front of thier trucks:

How about pulling 15k lbs of a goosenecked fifth wheel greater than 90 miles, through the Rockies, without having to charge… every… 90…. Miles which will likely cost 3x as much as diesel:

Lets see the CT do that. It cant.

My response was to the OP’s comments about the southeast (likely rural) use of trucks. The above are good examples of what rural folks may do with their “work truck”.

If we are talking tradesman, you need to define that. At 80k, you are getting a not-decked-out CT. For that same 80k you are getting a decent diesel truck. For 80k, if I have to haul anything of consequence or make extra money plowing in the winter, I will pay for the diesel. If I just need a tool hauler, then the CT will possibly work as long as my tools fit in the equivalent of a job box.. But if I am plumbing or doing electrician work where I carry a crap ton of parts, I may do it after there is enough aftermarket storage compartments for the CT like this:

So guess which one is likely to get chosen as a work truck at this stage of the game?

 

[tingmo13]

MY definition of a work truck:

Something that can haul heavy machinery as in up to 30k lbs:

I live in the Rockies. Lots of folks here place this 1400lb hydraulic plow on the front of thier trucks:

How about pulling 15k lbs of a goosenecked fifth wheel greater than 90 miles, through the Rockies, without having to charge… every… 90…. Miles which will likely cost 3x as much as diesel:

Lets see the CT do that. It cant.

My response was to the OP’s comments about the southeast (likely rural) use of trucks. The above are good examples of what rural folks may do with their “work truck”.

If we are talking tradesman, you need to define that. At 80k, you are getting a not-decked-out CT. For that same 80k you are getting a decent diesel truck. For 80k, if I have to haul anything of consequence or make extra money plowing in the winter, I will pay for the diesel. If I just need a tool hauler, then the CT will possibly work as long as my tools fit in the equivalent of a job box.. But if I am plumbing or doing electrician work where I carry a crap ton of parts, I may do it after there is enough aftermarket storage compartments for the CT like this:

So guess which one is likely to get chosen as a work truck at this stage of the game?

you seem so desperate Googling for images but reality isn't dumb emotion but huge percentage of truck owners use it for commuting/leisure drive.

 

[Crissa]

1. Third party devices prove to me that the vehicle should have had those options to begin with if someone has made a profitable business out of selling those devices. Also moving the vents should be a physical manipulation of the vents imo, not something the driver has to move on the screen (safety reasons and just overall ease of use)
2. I do not mean "buttons", I mean an easily accessible physical latching mechanism that you pull to unlatch the door. buttons have proven to be useless in the instance of an emergency. (both inside and out, see mustang mach E for reference)
3. PRND(L*) selector, that is what I am referring to. Just because it has those options on a screen or as haptic sensors do not count as a physical selector. Most truck owners would prefer a physical lever to manipulate over a screen to swipe. This may be personal preference but there is a reason most every truck has had this as standard for the last century, it just makes sense.
4. Again, a button is not a physical latch. electronic buttons can fail. (so can latches, they are just easier to fix for a daily)
5. Agreed, which is why the cybertruck should have the tire UNDER the bed like literally every other truck on the market. There is a reason why they are engineered that way. OR, they could have figured out another way to mount a spare SOMEWHERE on the truck so it is easily accessible. If the truck had not decreased in size they might have been able to fit one in the frunk.

The parts don't have to be flimsy silly, Tesla had every opportunity to make a robust "truck" interior, they just chose not to, but to each their own.

I personally don't mind the convenience of filling up on road trips in under 5 minutes vs an hour or more.

-Ricky

Like I said, we've had this conversation so many times before.

1. Third party products are third party because no, not everyone needs your thing. That's why there's mounts for roof racks and yet I never wanted one installed by the manufacturer! And I've had one on four of last five cars.
2. No, the handle on the outside is dumb. Literally, if the power doesn't work, the vehicle doesn't work, it's not an old jalopy. The power door popper is stronger than you, and the lack of handle saves energy going down the road. EVs are different than manual.
3. Yes, it's an EV. It doesn't do 'neutral' it does forward, back, and park. Having a physical lever isn't useful. You should never be using this control quickly. I say this and my Mazda 3 is stick. I failed drivers ed because I had never driven automatic. And since, I have only had one automatic transmission car! EVs are just different than manual.
4. Buttons, again? Moving parts are just more likely to break.
5. Under the bed is stupid. That's where the battery and motor are in an EV. Putting it there is an old trick from when there was a wasteful frame down there. EVs are different than old manual driven things... Besides, putting something filled with air under raises your center of gravity. You never want to raise your center of gravity.

You are looking at the wrong company if you want features which make it less reliable, less safe, less efficient.

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-Crissa

 

[rlhamil]

Did you know that the first spam email ever was sent by a lawyer? You’re welcome!

Actually, that one was in 1994, on Usenet (Two lawyers from Phoenix, Canter and Siegel, hired a programmer to post their "Green Card Lottery- Final One?" message to as many newsgroups as possible. - Wikipedia). The first known email spam was much earlier (1978) on ARPANET when it was still very small, from DEC advertising a presentation about a then-new computer model. Back then, ARPANET was government, academia, research labs, and the computer companies that supported them, and not much more.

Arguably the Usenet spam was the beginning of the long slide down the wide, easy road to heck for Usenet's S/N ratio, along with pr0n posts.

 

[dalton108]

Actually, that one was in 1994, on Usenet (Two lawyers from Phoenix, Canter and Siegel, hired a programmer to post their "Green Card Lottery- Final One?" message to as many newsgroups as possible. - Wikipedia). The first known email spam was much earlier (1978) on ARPANET when it was still very small, from DEC advertising a presentation about a then-new computer model. Back then, ARPANET was government, academia, research labs, and the computer companies that supported them, and not much more.

Arguably the Usenet spam was the beginning of the long slide down the wide, easy road to heck for Usenet's S/N ratio, along with pr0n posts.

Jk. ?

I guess the caveat that is usually added to this that I left out is “on the Internet.” or perhaps one of the first! Anyways please select one of these obligatory comebacks as your prize!

A. You must be fun at parties.

B. I bet you have to beat the ladies off with a stick!

C. Thank you for your service der, Cliffy!

 

[rlhamil]

Jk. ?

I guess the caveat that is usually added to this that I left out is “on the Internet.” or perhaps one of the first! Anyways please select one of these obligatory comebacks as your prize!

A. You must be fun at parties.

B. I bet you have to beat the ladies off with a stick!

C. Thank you for your service der, Cliffy!

Some of us still remember when these things happened. I only look them up to make sure I'm getting the details right.

I've never been a wild party animal (not even in the AF, but I guess the other services probably had the wilder parties anyway), never will be; but I haven't ruined my ears with loud noises, either. As for the rest, TMI but quite conventional, at least for a hermit.

 

[dalton108]

Truly just kidding obviously and knowledge is power my friend! Thanks for sharing!

 

[MeadowShade]

Tesla should totally resurrect the PT Cruiser's "Factory Flame Package" and put it on the Model Y

A brother from another mother you are! I was on the waitlist for the 1st PT Cruiser for over a year. I loved it ... then ... after 180,000 miles (manual transmission) a F150 hit me head on at 55 mph. I dusted off the air bag powder, opened my door and walked away. The F150 drinker side front wheel was shoved all the way back to where his floor shifter was. An ambulance took him away, alive barely. He turned left right in front of me and I barely got my foot on the brake before impact.
Yes, my door opened ... PT was way totaled ... but the doors still opened as normal.

I feel the same way about my CT. Maybe I can now avoid stooooopid F150 4WD drivers with FSD!

 

[gc2488]

$40K sounds good, still with AC outlets.

 

[RAY INGRASSIA]

Like me, I think a lot of people bought the CT because of it's uniqueness, individuality, statement and because I could afford to buy one. I've never had a pick-up truck. I've never had an electric vehicle..........yet I bought a Cybertruck. I really have no use for a pick up truck nor do I go camping or off-roading. Honestly, I didn't know if I'd like it, but I took the plunge and totally glad I did.

I think there are many unique "markets" for a Cybertruck, but none that you could classify a "massive market" for sales opportunity. I accept it for what it is.........not what it should be. It's definitely not for everyone and definitely won't fulfill all the needs for off-roaders, campers, truck haulers, etc. But for my everyday short trips, I love the technology and ease of driving.

 

[REM]

MY definition of a work truck:

Something that can haul heavy machinery as in up to 30k lbs:

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who takes the top example of what the truck isn't well suited for, and pretend like that's the make or break for it being useful at all as a work truck at all.

Plumbers, electricians, landscapers, welders. I see those dudes by the 1,000s and none of them are hauling f****** 5th wheels dude, ffs. There are alredy people out there saving HUNDREDS of dollars each month by having a CT.

If that doesn't apply to your specific trade and use cases, then by all means keep using a diesel truck.

 

[El_Dorado_Stables CT]

I am in the South Eastern US where everyone has a truck... To put it simply people do not like the cybertruck, they would not buy it regardless of the price. I have given rides to people in my FS Beast and they like the tech, the speed, and fsd, but they hate the rest:

Most say its not a truck
They hate Elon
They hate EVs
They hate the way it looks
They hate the range, and in this category it is a big deal because people do use there trucks for towing which all EV trucks have a hard time with.
They are worried about getting it serviced as my state only has 1 service center (New Orleans)
They are worried about the battery life & charging infrastructure especially if you are in a rural area.

So I have the FS Beast and I also have a GMC 2500HD diesel, for towing or anything long I still use the diesel.

I asked if they would buy it if the price were lower, most would not buy if even if were 40K. I just don't see a future for it if the main market for truck buyers is giving it a hard NO. I think people that bought the CT in 2024 were never really truck buyers or people that are not using their CTs for work.

So I think the future for the CT is going to be using the platform its built on and making a CYBER-Tahoe type SUV or CYBER-ESCALADE. A large SUV. It would need traditional styling, not the angular style of the cybertruck and a larger battery like a 180KW.

So in its current form, the CT is a novelty, I hope Tesla doesn't go down the path of price slashing only to find out it didn't work (sort of how they did on the Model S/X after the refresh).

It’s always amazing when people stop me and want a quick tour of the CT. They’re blown away when they see the back when I raise the Tonneau cover…..”It’s a pick up truck! That’s a huge truck bed!”

if the CT did not have the Tonneau cover down more people would see it was a truck.

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