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B-b-but what about the lack of crumple zones!?! And small children’s digits being amputated? And that engineering genius at Whistling Diesel? And people slicing their hands opening/closing doors?

Drive safe friends!

AND WITH FSD THE CT IS EXPONENTIALLY SAFER!!!
You forgot that if you strike a pedestrian driving really fast at just the right angle the truck could hurt the pedestrian. I guess this matters since other cars and trucks have marshmallow bumpers and won't hurt pedestrians.
One looky lou told me the corner edge of steel was sharp. I said "yeah, don't touch it".

When people online write the CT is ugly. I often remind them that the CT has a very masculine design. If you don't like the CT it's ok, you like a more feminine designed vehicle and that's ok too. I'm very comfortable in a masculine looking truck. It really fits me well. I tell them.
 

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Sure, anything can kill a pedestrian - a fall from standing height can do lethal damage.

But you can calculate the chance of the damage, and it will be different. Materials that give before bones break can accelerate the pedestrian with a lower chance of lethal shock. Which is why bumpers and hoods that dent before bones break are required in the EU regulations.

But probably more importantly is avoiding the accident by having increased forward vision from the cameras, and the ADAS warnings and braking you get from FSD even in its supervised form. No collisions is the ultimate goal.

Still, the fact that the truck normally rides lower than other trucks - especially ones with the same clearance - means it's more likely to throw an impacted pedestrian up or to the side than under the wheels. And that, I think, is more important than soft materials.

-Crissa
Has some European safety group actually tested the Cybertruck for pedestrian safety or is everyone just guessing that it wouldn't pass the tests in Europe? I cannot seem to find any actual test having been done and the Cybertruck failing said test. If Tesla hasn't submitted the truck for testing it could simply be that they aren't concerned about selling in Europe yet so no need to spend the $ to test yet as opposed to any real flaw in the design that would prevent it from passing. I'm just wondering where all this pedestrian flack is coming from, do you know?
 

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Has some European safety group actually tested the Cybertruck for pedestrian safety or is everyone just guessing that it wouldn't pass the tests in Europe? I cannot seem to find any actual test having been done and the Cybertruck failing said test. If Tesla hasn't submitted the truck for testing it could simply be that they aren't concerned about selling in Europe yet so no need to spend the $ to test yet as opposed to any real flaw in the design that would prevent it from passing. I'm just wondering where all this pedestrian flack is coming from, do you know?
Tesla has acknowledge it wouldn't pass the European safety test. They are pretty crazy. This is a page from the requirements.

Tesla Cybertruck Cybertruck gets FIVE STAR safety rating from NHTSA ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 1740061951009-1t


I think Wes or Franz once said at minimum bumpers would need to be installed on the edges or potentially rounding the corners.
 

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I often have three car seats in the back seat for three of my grandchildren. I bought the Cybertruck because I wanted something new and interesting but I also wanted something safe for the most important things in my life - my family.
This safety rating and videos absolutely validated my hopes. A five star safety rating, bullet proof (reasonably), FSD, interesting vehicle.
This absolutely outweighs any Cybertruck hate I receive (or think I receive). I will now smile knowing my family, my grandchildren are as safe as I can get them.
 


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Tesla has acknowledge it wouldn't pass the European safety test. They are pretty crazy. This is a page from the requirements.

1740061951009-1t.jpg


I think Wes or Franz once said at minimum bumpers would need to be installed on the edges or potentially rounding the corners.
Then how do Dodge Ram and other pickups pass this test?
 

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Here it is: 3.2mm external radius on any protruding features
So then a bunch of 3.2mm radius rubber strips stuck around the Cybertruck should do the trick, surely one of those aftermarket companies is working on just such a kit... ??
 

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I often have three car seats in the back seat for three of my grandchildren. I bought the Cybertruck because I wanted something new and interesting but I also wanted something safe for the most important things in my life - my family.
This safety rating and videos absolutely validated my hopes. A five star safety rating, bullet proof (reasonably), FSD, interesting vehicle.
This absolutely outweighs any Cybertruck hate I receive (or think I receive). I will now smile knowing my family, my grandchildren are as safe as I can get them.
Exactly! Safety of Tesla vehicles is exactly why I purchased a Model 3 in 2018 when my teen daughter started driving. And why I upgraded to a 2023 Model Y, and will soon be trading it in for a 2025 Model Y and a Cybertruck: best safety for "the most important things in my life - my family."
 


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Has some European safety group actually tested the Cybertruck for pedestrian safety or is everyone just guessing that it wouldn't pass the tests in Europe? I cannot seem to find any actual test
...If it's rated as a commercial vehicle, there is no test or limits. But as a privately operated passenger vehicle...

The regulations require a soft material for the nose of passenger vehicles, which the Cybertruck does not have at all, and a set angle for the nose of the vehicle, which it also straight up fails.

Compare the nose of the new ID.Buzz's slant vs the slant of the nose of the Cybertruck: That's why the Buzz has that slightly more set back nose than the concept.

Here it is: 3.2mm external radius on any protruding features
So then a bunch of 3.2mm radius rubber strips stuck
You could also just coin the edges of the non-adjoining panels, too. Only four panels and the frunk have corners that face outward. You'd barely notice the difference.

And that's on top of needing yellow signals and probably headlight washers (if any one light array is brighter than 2000 lumen) and other small differences.

Then how do Dodge Ram and other pickups pass this test?
They're imported as either one-offs or commercial vehicles.

-Crissa
 

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I had a 66 corvair that it handled better then anything on the road back then. It was amazing.
Doesn't mean he was wrong, though. The race to the bottom was at high speed then.

Cars like Tesla makes are designed with the failure mode in mind. The Corvair was not in any way. Without the third-party assurance that NHTSA gives, would we really know which were safer?

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