First Jerry rig everything, now mark rober 🧐

[mongo]

Rober popped up in my recommended videos yesterday. I didn't watch it... I could see he is placing a massive mirror on the road. As long as someone isn't moving a giant wall in the middle of the road and painting a photorealistic scene, or moving a 50 ft mirror on the road I feel pretty safe.

Everything is testable to extreme for click bait. I wish YouTube would cut back paying these people so much - it encourages videos for the purpose of making money only versus the sharing of knowledge, or good entertainment.

It was a mural on foam
And neither FSD nor AP were active when he ran into it

Sponsored

 

[Bobo_LaDouche]

I do t wanna say this was intentional but he’s a nasa engineer so something like that would never be an oversight.

Hmmm... Tesla vs NASA. Where have I heard about this before? Oh yea, space. Once NASA is privatized and Musk takes over the big contracts, this guy will be out of a job. So he is just starting his new career probably - as a Musk/Tesla Complainer.

 

[jameskk]

this thread reminds me of 2-3 years ago when everybody thought they were an FSD expert and would give details on why the technology would never reach L3 or 4. The magic is in the software. More compute, better data, more data, etc. SMH

 

[cbr1000]

It was a mural on foam
And neither FSD nor AP were active when he ran into it

Thank you for letting me know. I didn't watch it - from what I could tell from the thumbnail it looked like a mirror or something painted... Others must be copying for views because something was recommended to me with a mirror and testing cars ability.

Was there any value in watching the video - should I go back and watch it?

 

[mongo]

Thank you for letting me know. I didn't watch it - from what I could tell from the thumbnail it looked like a mirror or something painted... Others must be copying for views because something was recommended to me with a mirror and testing cars ability.

Was there any value in watching the video - should I go back and watch it?

Don't know if there was value, I only watched the foam wall section to pick it apart...

 

[Friday]

As with any Youtube influencer, FOLLOW THE SPONSORSHIP MONEY.
Simple as that.

 

[GuyV]

Vision alone can only go so far. Aka in ideal conditions. The reason why us humans slow down or don’t drive in certain conditions, ie blizzards or sand storms.

I can’t wrap my brain around why a manufacturer would choose only one sensing technology instead of a network of different types for different weather/road conditions.

Fact: I’m not an engineer.

Because roads and traffic rules are designed for humans who rely on vision. No vehicles should be driven in the kinds of conditions that are unsafe for human drivers. Vehicles, with multiple high-resolution cameras, with sensors chosen specifically for the driving task can "see" far better than humans under a much wider range of conditions. This provides for an even greater margin of safety.

 

[lee810]

Both of those videos are highly suspicious. They were designed to embarrass Tesla and were very misleading, if not defamatory. If driving through the painted scene was done without FSD enabled, but implying it was, then it should be taken down.

The video by Jerry Rig Everything that broke the frame by applying 10,000 lbs of down force on the trailer hitch was exceptionally misleading. The max towing capacity and max tongue weight are two completely different things and so claiming that it broke before reaching the towing capacity is ludicrous. Tongue weight is generally 1/10 of towing capacity and the CT's frame exceeded that number by a factor of 10.

I'm guessing that there may have been some 'sponsorship' of the video in that it likely totaled the CT for no reason other than to damage the CT's reputation. I don't think that was done just for clicks, there may be some other dark money behind it.

I think YouTube should demonetize both videos, delete them, and possibly be added to a lawsuit for violation of the Lanham Act (making false claims about a competitor's products).

 

[Crissa]

Vision alone can only go so far. Aka in ideal conditions. The reason why us humans slow down or don’t drive in certain conditions, ie blizzards or sand storms.

Those also degrade radar; and then lidar worse. And all the animals and humans also using the roads would still be limited by sight to avoid stepping into your path so even if you did have a better sensor system you'd still need to slow down to avoid these hazards.

Because roads and traffic rules are designed for humans who rely on vision. No vehicles should be driven in the kinds of conditions that are unsafe for human drivers. Vehicles, with multiple high-resolution cameras, with sensors chosen specifically for the driving task can "see" far better than humans under a much wider range of conditions. This provides for an even greater margin of safety.

Right. Vision is just not all that limiting; when faced with the real world.

And on top a computer can parallax both frames of time and any of the overlapping views, giving multiple frames of reference to double check itself in ways Humans can't. (Trust me; my spouse built tools that used timeslicing for parallax and looking at 3D from that view was lunch-upending. And I'm pretty resilient against VR nausea.)

-Crissa

 

[lee810]

Here's a thread on x.com that sheds a lot more detail on the deception of this video.

 

[lee810]

Looks like all of the mega influencers with EDS are being called out:

 

[nallen]

Yes lidar is better but if Tesla can make the camera system work it will be a huge breakthrough. I award Tesla for trying the hard thing. They can always fall back to other tech if needed.

Jerry Rig Everything proved that the hitch weight (vertical load) is ~10x stronger than the 1000LB it is designed to hold.

 

[mongo]

Yes lidar is better but if Tesla can make the camera system work it will be a huge breakthrough. I award Tesla for trying the hard thing. They can always fall back to other tech if needed.

Jerry Rig Everything proved that the hitch weight (vertical load) is 10x stronger than the 1000LB it is designed to hold.

The vehicle test load for the hitch is more like 5.5-6k pounds.

 

[Sjohnson20]

According to the comments on the video he was using regular autopilot. I'm not watching all of it but maybe he should try with FSD.

 

[mongo]

According to the comments on the video he was using regular autopilot. I'm not watching all of it but maybe he should try with FSD.

For one, maybe more, of the tests, he wasn't even doing that...

Sponsored