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FSD 13 vs 14.1 vs 14.2 - my experience and thoughts

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I tried it too. I let them know about my odd problems with V14. We'll see what happens.

I'm getting ready to try V14.2.1 on my standard test route this afternoon. I hope to see some positive changes.
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Ok. Does anyone but me think 14.2 is a substantial improvement over 14.1?
I have no regrets about the download/install
Not me- I hate FSD14 due to its terrible speed management causing me to repeatedly disengage or step on the gas. It’s far far less autonomous driving for me than 13. I would just like the ability to set speed manually. FSD14 speed profile management totally sucks for me. I just did a 100+ mile interstate trip. Just like in town, it’s either too slow or too fast, and rolling up or down speed profiles is just not precise enough. And then there is now the inability to correct the many many speed limit errors. FSD14 has made FSD, which is the primary reason to own a Tesla, unpleasant and mostly unusable. A month ago I was going to be a lifetime Tesla owner, but not now. I’m looking at the Jag00. I hope they can fix this before I trade because I really loved my truck before FSD14 ruined it for me.
 

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Not me- I hate FSD14 due to its terrible speed management causing me to repeatedly disengage or step on the gas. It’s far far less autonomous driving for me than 13. I would just like the ability to set speed manually. FSD14 speed profile management totally sucks for me. I just did a 100+ mile interstate trip. Just like in town, it’s either too slow or too fast, and rolling up or down speed profiles is just not precise enough. And then there is now the inability to correct the many many speed limit errors. FSD14 has made FSD, which is the primary reason to own a Tesla, unpleasant and mostly unusable. A month ago I was going to be a lifetime Tesla owner, but not now. I’m looking at the Jag00. I hope they can fix this before I trade because I really loved my truck before FSD14 ruined it for me.
Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it improves soon. Can’t imagine it won’t with the amount of noise over it.
 

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This doesn't help anyone, but I suspect the speed issues are particularly bad regionally. Even if the speed limit detection is wrong (it's rare for me, but happens), the truck still keeps a reasonable speed (whether or not there are other cars). For example, I was on a highway, going about 75, it detected 45 (erroneously, probably the frontage road), didn't matter, it stayed going 75.

I never go out of Standard and don't have any issues in the South East.
 

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Sorry to hear that. Hopefully it improves soon. Can’t imagine it won’t with the amount of noise over it.
Thank you, I hope so. I love my truck- the vehicle is near perfect for us, and was perfect for me until manual override of max speed was deleted in the spirit of more autonomous driving. It’s made it much less autonomous for me. I know many people like FSD14, but I’m not one of them. And really maybe I would like the other ‘improvements’, but for me the unsafe and aggravating speed management is a deal killer. My wife liked our Lyriq much better.
 


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14.2.1 Update: Drove 30+ miles into downtown Houston this morning. FSD did really well. Lane changes were smooth and decisive. Handled very technical situations quite well. FSD felt truly usable. It Hasn’t quite nailed the parking garage option as it tried to send me next door to the surface lot. Other than that, no significant issues to report with the one trip so far.
 

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Ok. Does anyone but me think 14.2 is a substantial improvement over 14.1?
I have no regrets about the download/install
FSD has become so good that it takes a lot of FSD driving to say one version is better than another. The speed control is nearly perfect, just how I would normally do it. I will say so far ver. 14.2.1 has been nearly perfect for me, with a two exceptions. It couldn't back out of a narrow garage door without pulling forward twice and giving it another go. I got tired of watching it repeat the same thing so I took over. It was doing fine, it just kept pulling forward after backing up to the door opening. Done correctly there is one inch of clearance on each mirror. It looked like it was doing it correctly but it just didn't trust itself.

The other one is it parked on top of the line on the driver's side at the narrow spot at the hardware store parking lot. Still, the fact that it's parking now, backing up, doing three point turns, etc. is just mind-blowing.

Other than that, it's pretty amazing. I can hardly wait for version 14.3 which is supposed to be "sentient", that should fix a lot of the parking mistakes.
 

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FSD has become so good that it takes a lot of FSD driving to say one version is better than another. The speed control is nearly perfect, just how I would normally do it. I will say so far ver. 14.2.1 has been nearly perfect for me, with a two exceptions. It couldn't back out of a narrow garage door without pulling forward twice and giving it another go. I got tired of watching it repeat the same thing so I took over. It was doing fine, it just kept pulling forward after backing up to the door opening. Done correctly there is one inch of clearance on each mirror. It looked like it was doing it correctly but it just didn't trust itself.

The other one is it parked on top of the line on the driver's side at the narrow spot at the hardware store parking lot. Still, the fact that it's parking now, backing up, doing three point turns, etc. is just mind-blowing.

Other than that, it's pretty amazing. I can hardly wait for version 14.3 which is supposed to be "sentient", that should fix a lot of the parking mistakes.
In what way is 14.3 supposed to be more sentient?
 

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In what way is 14.3 supposed to be more sentient?
It's supposed to "think" more, plan a parking strategy better, etc. This according to Musk.

Personally, I think FSD has (at times) already seemed sentient in amazing ways. I guess 14.3 is supposed to be a bigger jump in this department.
 

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It's supposed to "think" more, plan a parking strategy better, etc. This according to Musk.

Personally, I think FSD has (at times) already seemed sentient in amazing ways. I guess 14.3 is supposed to be a bigger jump in this department.
Very cool. Look forward to it.
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