We'd like to get your feedback about range anxiety

[mochaev]

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[DaBagBoy]

wow - you really won't give up on this, I am curious if anyone here driving a CT has actually ever been "stranded"

8 yrs owned 4 different Teslas and somehow never ran out of juice, only one occasion had any real "concern"

BUT since you seem hard pressed.....how many kw do you expect these mobile chargers to provide?
As in a "worst case scenario" most of us would plug in to 110v AC at as many amps as possible and let it charge, there are pretty much zero location in the USA without electricity at this point, and for those travelling "WAY OFF GRID" I'm pretty sure your mobile solutions aren't going to get to me in Wolf Point Montana anyway....

 

[mochaev]

wow - you really won't give up on this, I am curious if anyone here driving a CT has actually ever been "stranded"

8 yrs owned 4 different Teslas and somehow never ran out of juice, only one occasion had any real "concern"

BUT since you seem hard pressed.....how many kw do you expect these mobile chargers to provide?
As in a "worst case scenario" most of us would plug in to 110v AC at as many amps as possible and let it charge, there are pretty much zero location in the USA without electricity at this point, and for those travelling "WAY OFF GRID" I'm pretty sure your mobile solutions aren't going to get to me in Wolf Point Montana anyway....

I agree that experienced EV owners rarely run out of charge. CT owners would be great for helping provide a charge to stranded drivers and make you some cash to boot. On average, people need enough charge to go 30 mi to the next station. There will be outliers that require more, and that's something we'll adjust as things evolve.

This guy made a cool heatmap of various distances between chargers.
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...-within-200-miles-in-the-contiguous-us.25847/

Thanks for your feedback and support!

 

[DaBagBoy]

OK - now I guess I'm intrigued, but still don't think this happens as often as people might fear it will.

Then when they do somehow get stranded the CT will probably be in those high density heatmap and the empty car will be in the white areas, so a massive commute

 

[mochaev]

While cities have more vehicles overall, EV trucks (including CT) tend to be prevalent in rural areas. Trucks in general are more favored in the country side. EV trucks have been making inroads, though how many is the key question. It's pretty clear that there will be different modes of operation in higher density (city) environments vs rural.

 

[kpanda17]

wow - you really won't give up on this, I am curious if anyone here driving a CT has actually ever been "stranded"

8 yrs owned 4 different Teslas and somehow never ran out of juice, only one occasion had any real "concern"

BUT since you seem hard pressed.....how many kw do you expect these mobile chargers to provide?
As in a "worst case scenario" most of us would plug in to 110v AC at as many amps as possible and let it charge, there are pretty much zero location in the USA without electricity at this point, and for those travelling "WAY OFF GRID" I'm pretty sure your mobile solutions aren't going to get to me in Wolf Point Montana anyway....

never stranded
Always have my mobile charger, only used when camping at an RV park
Always have my CCS adapter, also never had to use for Tesla superchargers are everywhere

Tesla NAV and BMS (battery management system) are the best, never stranded
supercharger network is the best, everywhere

interesting story, heading south out of SLC
Heading for Zion, we have a supercharger planned, FSD is driving in heavy cross winds and some rain, chilly
Obviously range being impacted
FSD is driving and all of a sudden
We exit, off ramp, on ramp and we turn around going north
FSD takes rhe next exit and heads east
It takes us to a supercharger
No big deal as after going south we would have headed east
Now we’re heading south again, after we headed east and charged

point is, NAV and BMS took care of it
Weather conditions got worst
Never stranded
No anxiety

Tesla Rocks!!

 

[HaulingAss]

On average, people need enough charge to go 30 mi to the next station. There will be outliers that require more, and that's something we'll adjust as things evolve.

How did you calculate your statistic of needing, on average, 30 more miles of range to get to the next charger? That figure is highly suspect because it appears to not be based on actual reliable data. If it is, please share the data source.

This guy made a cool heatmap of various distances between chargers.
https://www.f150lightningforum.com/...-within-200-miles-in-the-contiguous-us.25847/

Are you kidding me? That map is from 2022!

Here's what people who thought travelling long distances in an EV would be a problem have never understood: More DCFC charging stations are added every week, and the pace is accelerating. There are currently almost THREE TIMES as many DCFC today as depicted on that 2022 map (and by the close of this year there will be OVER three times as many). Every year we have a higher density of DCFC to choose from and the growth is showing no signs of letting up.

I would love to rescue stranded EV motorists with my Cybertruck and I carry a Mobile Connector just in case. But in two years of driving my Cybertruck around 5 states I have never seen a stranded EV by the side of the road needing a charge. I've seen plenty of gas cars, either broken down or out of gas, but never an EV.

 

[kpanda17]

How did you calculate your statistic of needing, on average, 30 more miles of range to get to the next charger? That figure is highly suspect because it appears to not be based on actual reliable data. If it is, please share the data source.



Are you kidding me? That map is from 2022!

Here's what people who thought travelling long distances in an EV would be a problem have never understood: More DCFC charging stations are added every week, and the pace is accelerating. There are currently almost THREE TIMES as many DCFC today as depicted on that 2022 map (and by the close of this year there will be OVER three times as many). Every year we have a higher density of DCFC to choose from and the growth is showing no signs of letting up.

I would love to rescue stranded EV motorists with my Cybertruck and I carry a Mobile Connector just in case. But in two years of driving my Cybertruck around 5 states I have never seen a stranded EV by the side of the road needing a charge. I've seen plenty of gas cars, either broken down or out of gas, but never an EV.

driven deep in Canada to keywest florida and back
many times
Never had range anxiety
Superchargers everywhere

 

[malinecentral]

wow - you really won't give up on this, I am curious if anyone here driving a CT has actually ever been "stranded"

I created a poll on here when he posted this the first time.

https://www.cybertruckownersclub.co...have-you-ever-ran-out-of-charge-or-gas.40003/

 

[Beetlebug62]

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Thanks in advance for taking the time to share your thoughts

Have I ever had range anxiety?

So, I just got back from a 10k mile ski trip; where I drove from Maine to California and back, with stops up in Montana and Wyoming, etc. Did I have any range anxiety?

Yes, once. I had a fairly good comfort level with my highway efficiency driving from Maine out west to California; but, in Cali, I got a Spacecampers cap put on my truck. That meant I didn't know what my efficiency was anymore. Was it 5% worse? 10%, 20%?

The same day as I got my cap, I headed up 7hrs away to Mammoth Mtn to ski. That's all the time I had to get an idea of the truck's new efficiency. Why was that important?

I knew when I left Mammoth, I'd head due east thru some sparsely populated areas, with few chargers let alone people or gas stations. I needed to get the efficiency, right.

Here I am in Tonopah, NV on my way to Ely, which is 168mi away. Temps are 34°f and I have snow tires on. I expect 500+Wh/mi, but am not completely sure, since I now have a cap on the truck. I didn't look at the first leg's efficiency from Mammoth, since I was going downhill from the mountain.

Being uncertain, I decide to give myself a bigger cushion than normal. I charged up to 95% with a destination SOC of 14%. Should be enough, right?

As I drive, I check my trip planner. The further along I get and if my cushion is above 10%, then I may scroll up to a faster drive mode. If my cushion is below 10%, I'll scroll down to a slower drive mode. Got to Ely with 10%.

That wasn't even the longest leg; the next one was 192mi to Scipio, UT. I had no anxiety because I had already gotten a handle on my truck's efficiency with cap and snow tires at highway speeds.

So, it doesn't take long to get a handle on an EV's efficiency, nor does it take long to figure out a trip strategy. Basically, find a destination SOC level you're comfortable with, and then adjust your drive modes to keep you on target.

 

[ikwill]

I’ve had Teslas before any forum was alive yet never once experienced “range anxiety” but have had anxiety attacks when I’ve used ICE vehicles when I had to pump gas. I used to travel from PA to GA as our house was renovated when I relied on gas. Stopping to fuel especially at nights was rather unsettling as an older lady with some worries with the public standing around asking for money. Thankfully those days are over.

 

[Canino2025]

If you follow the recommendations, you should never be in a situation running out of energy. We drive ICE and we never ran out of gas. If you did, well, you didn’t read the gauge well.

 

[EasternSP]

yep, twice for me.
First time was with my Y Model. Driving to Detroit from Virginia. I missed a charge point just east of Toledo exit but thought I had seen a charge point north near the Michigan border. I was wrong and the closest charge point was back on the Turnpike, east of Toledo. I arrived at the charge point with 0 miles on the screen.
Second time was driving south through Maryland to Virginia. Temps were in the low 30s and only a few miles left on the screen as I approached the Harry Nice bridge over the Potomac River. When I reached the peak of the bridge the milage dropped to 0 with a couple miles still to go to the charger. I was able to pull into the charger position and plug in before the car died.

 

[CyberWalrus]

On my last road trip, I felt like going to get stranded. Navigation routed me to a Supercharger in downtown DC where is a private building underground garage. The CT could not fit in there and paid parking, so then drove around to other Supercharger locations that were also in private hotel parking. Finally, instead of driving around wasting power, stopped on side to looked closely on the map to one that is public at a mall. only had a few percent left.

Watch out for Supercharger locations in dense city locations. Most are private or may not be accessible or even out of service.

 

[SlegMD]

No real range anxiety with proper planning.

That being said if Tesla ever sells a CT with more range, without adding mass, they will have sold another CT to me

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