Range Anxiety, Ha! Cybertruck performing far above expectations and vs F-150 Raptor

[CyberFreak]

(citation not included: 'list of many flaws in my logic')


Do you think that a human types every email? They do a select, it spits out accounts, that list then sends out emails and unlocks the configurator.

This needs to be done no matter how many reservations there is. And there's already alot of them. It's already been done.

Additionally, this is basically work of a single person or small group (to make sure buttons are not pressed wrong).

And since the line of orders is a different queue entirely, this doesn't delay any trucks from being delivered. Web/email advertising services don't process orders or service vehicles, so they're completely unrelated to orders.


No, no it's not.

Emails still need to go out, the configurator still needs to be unlocked, and now you've added an additional email and money handling to the process. Each cancellation is more work, and work that's not eventually paid for with a deposit!


Grasp a concept? What concept?

Here's a list of concepts we're in disagreement on:

• There are two queues, reservations and orders.
• Reservations are almost entirely automated (except when cancellations occur), and are processed only as often as they need to keep the order list full.
• Orders continue to be filled whether or not there's any reservations at all. That's the job of reservations, constant contact, web services with the configurator.
• Bonus: Web/Email services is a different skillset from sales and automobile service.

If you're going to make a list, make a list.

-Crissa

You have already inadvertently conceded that you were WRONG….

funny that you don’t realize it…

Despite your suggestions that the compiling of reservations & submission of invitations and then the subsequent responses is virtually all automated and thus doesn’t affect the time from reservations to delivery—-physics would beg to differ…

The fact is it does take time to send invitations and it does take time to await the responses to said invitations—perhaps you think this amount of time is insignificant, but the fact is when there are potentially a million reservations in front of the one you place today, if they were all cancelled today your reservation today could result in a CyberTruck in your driveway much sooner than if none of the reservations were canceled….

Question: how could that be if these things take no time as you suggest???‍

the fact that you cannot grasp this simple concept is worrying and is why I cannot take your opinions seriously…

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[Crissa]

You have already inadvertently conceded that you were WRONG….

Why, if I conceded, can you never repeat what I said?

Look, you don't understand how email lists work. I get that. Not everyone is technically proficient, or managed web services.

You don't understand that there's two queues. I get that. But it's something that's used in engineering both physical and social: It allows you to keep one process busy to have a separate process filling the second one's queue. You'll see this with hoppers or funnels.

Or in this case, a reservation list. The pace of the operation of the reservation list has no effect upon the order list. The order list is the 'hopper' for deliveries, and the batches from the reservation go into the order list.

The fact is it does take time to send invitations and it does take time to await the responses to said invitations—perhaps you think this amount of time is insignificant, but ...

...That time doesn't have anything to do with delivering orders, though. No one is writing emails - we've all gotten the same invite over the last seven months. No one is waiting responses - the configurator is a web service that does it for them.

There's no one 'waiting'. They go off and do their normal work. Whenever the order list isn't full, they send a new batch from the reservation. It's probably just a button at this point. If it's full, they don't push it. Pretty simple.

Tesla wouldn't be what they were today if they weren't always taking advantage of these optimizations.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

Why, if I conceded, can you never repeat what I said?

Look, you don't understand how email lists work. I get that. Not everyone is technically proficient, or managed web services.

You don't understand that there's two queues. I get that. But it's something that's used in engineering both physical and social: It allows you to keep one process busy to have a separate process filling the second one's queue. You'll see this with hoppers or funnels.

Or in this case, a reservation list. The pace of the operation of the reservation list has no effect upon the order list. The order list is the 'hopper' for deliveries, and the batches from the reservation go into the order list.


...That time doesn't have anything to do with delivering orders, though. No one is writing emails - we've all gotten the same invite over the last seven months. No one is waiting responses - the configurator is a web service that does it for them.

There's no one 'waiting'. They go off and do their normal work. Whenever the order list isn't full, they send a new batch from the reservation. It's probably just a button at this point. If it's full, they don't push it. Pretty simple.

Tesla wouldn't be what they were today if they weren't always taking advantage of these optimizations.

-Crissa

Clearly memory isn’t your strong suit…that’s okay some people are forgetful….

if it were, you would have remembered that I already pointed out that I never disputed that there are in effect 2 queues…

…that point aside, the fact remains that the 2 queues are interlinked…the fact that you don’t seem to grasp that concept is concerning….

…and again you assign no time value to the process of sending/receiving/responding to invitations to configure….in fact, it does take time and once someone does not accept the opportunity to configure they are passed over but that does not happen instantaneously…they are afforded a period of—wait for it—-TIME!

and as asked before—and you refused to answer—if this process takes Zero Time, then everyone on the Reservation list should have already been invited on day 1 of invitations going out—-they weren’t!

and if this process doesn’t affect “the time it takes from placing a Reservation until receiving the CyberTruck” then according to your flawed logic, if you placed a reservation today, and then every reservation holder ahead of you cancelled their reservation tomorrow, you would still expect that you would not receive your CyberTruck until well into 2025?

Really?

Take the ‘L”… save yourself further embarrassment….

 

[Crissa]

Clearly memory isn’t your strong suit…that’s okay some people are forgetful….

if it were, you would have remembered that I already pointed out that I never disputed that there are in effect 2 queues…

…that point aside, the fact remains that the 2 queues are interlinked…the fact that you don’t seem to grasp that concept is concerning….

…and again you assign no time value to the process of sending/receiving/responding to invitations to configure….in fact, it does take time and once someone does not accept the opportunity to configure they are passed over but that does not happen instantaneously…they are afforded a period of—wait for it—-TIME!

and as asked before—and you refused to answer—if this process takes Zero Time, then everyone on the Reservation list should have already been invited on day 1 of invitations going out—-they weren’t!

and if this process doesn’t affect “the time it takes from placing a Reservation until receiving the CyberTruck” then according to your flawed logic, if you placed a reservation today, and then every reservation holder ahead of you cancelled their reservation tomorrow, you would still expect that you would not receive your CyberTruck until well into 2025?

Really?

Take the ‘L”… save yourself further embarrassment….

Dude. Focus.

How are deliveries slowed when someone doesn't configure?

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

Dude. Focus.

How are deliveries slowed when someone doesn't configure?

-Crissa

Dude. Focus.

I said you would get your cybertruck sooner if others cancelled their reservations ahead of you.

You don’t get it. And that’s okay.

 

[Crissa]

Dude. Focus.

I said you would get your cybertruck sooner if others cancelled their reservations ahead of you.

You don’t get it. And that’s okay.

You're great at repeating yourself, but...

...You didn't answer the question.

No, I don't get why you repeat things.

'If others cancelled their reservations' - That isn't the situation we were seeing. You're moving goalposts.

The situation is: I'm sitting on my reservation. He's sitting on his reservation. Have we slowed deliveries? How?

You keep not answering that one, single question.

How does my not cancelling slow your order? How?

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

You're great at repeating yourself, but...

...You didn't answer the question.

No, I don't get why you repeat things.

That isn't the situation we were seeing. You're moving goalposts.

The situation is: I'm sitting on my reservation. He's sitting on his reservation. Have we slowed deliveries? How?

You keep not answering that one, single question.

How does my not cancelling slow your order? How?

-Crissa

Not cancelling your reservation could result in me receiving my CyberTruck later than if you had cancelled your reservation.

Why is this such a tough concept for you?

 

[Crissa]

Not cancelling your reservation could result in me receiving my CyberTruck later than if you had cancelled your reservation.

Why is this such a tough concept for you?

It's tough, because you're moving the goalpost. Now it's 'could result'. If I convert to an order. Which isn't sitting on a reservation, now is it?

Someone waiting for the 500-mile version clearly isn't in your way if you like the currently available models. And their reservation isn't delaying yours.

Ehh, sitting on a reservation doesn't slow anyone from getting a truck.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

It's tough, because you're moving the goalpost. Now it's 'could result'. If I convert to an order. Which isn't sitting on a reservation, now is it?

Someone waiting for the 500-mile version clearly isn't in your way if you like the currently available models. And their reservation isn't delaying yours.



-Crissa

Okay maybe some progress?

are we in agreement that by canceling your reservation you “could potentially” accelerate the time it takes for me to get my CyberTruck?

 

[Crissa]

Okay maybe some progress?

are we in agreement that by canceling your reservation you “could potentially” accelerate the time it takes for me to get my CyberTruck?

Potentially, maybe, if someone stops sitting on their reservation, they might convert ahead of you.

But they were always ahead of you. And then they wouldn't be sitting on their reservation, would they?

No trucks are delayed by their indecision.

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

Potentially, maybe, if someone stops sitting on their reservation, they might convert ahead of you.

But they were always ahead of you. And then they wouldn't be sitting on their reservation, would they?

No trucks are delayed by their indecision.

-Crissa

I never suggested any trucks would be delayed.

I simply stated that by others canceling reservations ahead of yours, you would potentially receive your truck sooner than if others ahead of you did not cancel their reservations.

catch the distinction?

 

[Crissa]

I never suggested any trucks would be delayed.

Easy solution: either pay up for the range extender or get your $100 back and free up a reservation space for someone who actually would be happy to take your spot.

are you honestly asking me to explain how time works?!? ??‍

I mean according to your poor logic if everyone cancelled their reservations except for the very last person who placed their reservation, they would still not receive their CyberTruck any sooner…if you still can’t figure out the flaw in your logic you might need to seek help elsewhere…

*sigh*

-Crissa

 

[CyberFreak]

*sigh*

-Crissa

Nice quotes now show me where it says “delayed”.

I said they would receive it sooner….

*sigh*

Catching distinctions isnt your strong suit….and that’s okay buddy. ??

 

[sshaned]

I received my "design your FS truck" email about 3 weeks ago. Does anyone know how long I have to design my Truck? Does the reservation expire? i.e. 30 days

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