Epic Fail! - Cyberbeast - Tires shot at 6251 miles!!!

[rrizzi7210]

I am no expert on tires, and most certainly not an expert on Teslas. I have owned a number of performance cars tho (none as quick as the CB tho), and I hang out with other folks in the performance car world when I am able. Maybe I am missing something here, but those wear numbers seem nominal or better than I would have expected for a vehicle this heavy with this much power. Vehicles that put down a lot of power use tires, even when there is no wheel spin or aggressive cornering.

In my opinion, changes in direction and acceleration (either + or -) impact tire life more than any other factor. For example, if you load the bed with 2,500 lbs and let the vehicle sit for 12 months, zero degredation because friction is static and no acceleration (extreme example).

At stock weight, drive on a 75 ft diameter skid pad at maximum safe speed in one direction for say 50 to 100 miles (I would be dizzy), and I would be willing to bet the tires would be completely useless and noticeably damaged (another extreme example).

Again, stock configuration, drive 20K miles across wet payment if possible all the time in a straight line, and I would willing to bet tire wear would be minimal at best.

All real-world driving will be somewhere between these extreme cases, because temperature, tire pressure, acceleration and turns will increase wear proportionally as we would expect provided you test the same tire over several production lots on enough indentical vehicles. Ultimately, the driver and style of driving will prevail.

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[Texarado]

At 6,863 miles, my tires are sitting at between 10 and 11/32 and one is at between 9 and 10/32. I have towed ~2500-2600 miles at this point. I’ve gunned it a handful of times from a complete stop. Otherwise I’ve driven in chill mode and generally speaking stuck to speed limits. These are the best tires I’ve ever had on a Tesla. That said, I drove/drive my Model 3 MUCH more aggressively. I drive the truck conservatively. Had this been my first Tesla, I’d probably drive the CT very aggressively too. After 6 years of the M3, I’m not as anxious to gun it every time. Not criticizing at all those who do. Teslas are incredibly fun to drive.

 

[santoshm]

At 6,863 miles, my tires are sitting at between 10 and 11/32 and one is at between 9 and 10/32. I have towed ~2500-2600 miles at this point. I’ve gunned it a handful of times from a complete stop. Otherwise I’ve driven in chill mode and generally speaking stuck to speed limits. These are the best tires I’ve ever had on a Tesla. That said, I drove/drive my Model 3 MUCH more aggressively. I drive the truck conservatively. Had this been my first Tesla, I’d probably drive the CT very aggressively too. After 6 years of the M3, I’m not as anxious to gun it every time. Not criticizing at all those who do. Teslas are incredibly fun to drive.

Do you have the CT or the CB?

 

[Texarado]

Do you have the CT or the CB?

Mine is the AWD and not Beast. I understand that’s a difference, but highly unlikely to have these types of swings. How aggressively do you corner? I’m not suggesting this is your fault, but as others have said, EVs chew through tires. My 3 has gone through a lot at 48k miles. I drive the truck so fundamentally differently and it’s lasted much longer. That’s the reason I think driving inputs are likely a driving reason for the difference between yours and mine. Obviously I can’t say for sure, but only from my experience and how I’ve changed my driving.

 

[santoshm]

I used to only get 7500 miles in my AMG SUV. One time only 2000 miles in the cold months. It was all wheel drive to you cannot spin the wheels.

Turns out I was just driving like an a-hole. It’s like I was a BMW driver.

Did you previously drive a BMW?

I still drive and have my BMW M850 Grand Coupe and Mercedes AMG E53 Cabriolet… sooo yes. I drive those cars like they were intended to be driven. I don’t tailgate anyone, I’m not an aggressive driver on the road, but if I’m at a traffic stop and no cops around and I’m on the line… I’m taking off. If there is no one on the corner, I’m cornering hard. However that is only in those cars that are super low profile compared to the CB. The CB, I’ve never even hit 132 mph, never cornered hard… just seems unnatural with how high it sits and never took it off road.

Had I done all that and shot my tires at least I would have got my money’s worth. This is regular not hard driving and tires are shot.

 

[santoshm]

Mine is the AWD and not Beast. I understand that’s a difference, but highly unlikely to have these types of swings. How aggressively do you corner? I’m not suggesting this is your fault, but as others have said, EVs chew through tires. My 3 has gone through a lot at 48k miles. I drive the truck so fundamentally differently and it’s lasted much longer. That’s the reason I think driving inputs are likely a driving reason for the difference between yours and mine. Obviously I can’t say for sure, but only from my experience and how I’ve changed my driving.

Never cornered hard, never hit 132 mph, never drag raced. Hence the total shock and surprise.

 

[santoshm]

@santoshm, the OEM AT tires also have less tread depth than the similar version from Goodyear, so that takes some miles off as well. If you get any other AT tires, they'll probably last much longer since they'll have deeper tread and will probably be a harder compound.

And the OEM AT H rated tire offers no milage tread wear warranty as well.

 

[Texarado]

Maybe possibly you got a bad batch of tires. I don’t know that I’ve hit 90 in mine. Again, just overall conservative driving. Typically right at 65-75. I’m in Texas with lots of fast drivers, very warm temperatures, and I’ve had a huge chunk of miles with very significant payload.

 

[santoshm]

Sorry if mentioned up thread, but is wear even between inside edge and outside edge? I torched rears in my Plaid in 8K miles because the stock alignment has a bit of camber dialed-in for performance (and I really like the Plaid animation). Downside is that you cord the insides pretty fast. Makes me wonder if Beast alignment is different than AWD and/or if your preferred ride height changes suspension geometry.

Also, what is the Tesla price to replace a set of CT AT tires? Looks like around $500/each for tires at TireRack, which doesn’t seem too bad.

I’m not getting this same crap H rated tires again. I’m switching to S rated tire that has a milage tread wear warranty. Cost is between $350 to $500 per tire. The H rated OEMs have no milage tread wear warranty even when you replace them with new ones at discount tire.

 

[Tony2times]

Yes First Tesla... and Uuughly disappointed at these factory tires.

If you can afford the Breast then a couple grand in tires is BS money. I bet you had lots of fun in that bad ass truck for the last 7,000 miles! Maybe lay off the launches?

 

[santoshm]

Maybe possibly you got a bad batch of tires. I don’t know that I’ve hit 90 in mine. Again, just overall conservative driving. Typically right at 65-75. I’m in Texas with lots of fast drivers, very warm temperatures, and I’ve had a huge chunk of miles with very significant payload.

Does the CT AWD come with H rated or S rated tires? Check yours.

 

[Texarado]

Does the CT AWD come with H rated or S rated tires? Check yours.

H

 

[santoshm]

If you can afford the Breast then a couple grand in tires is BS money. I bet you had lots of fun in that bad ass truck for the last 7,000 miles! Maybe lay off the launches?

Actually that is my gripe. Never drove this truck hard, never cornered hard, never got anywhere close to 132 mph, never took it off road… yes did 3 launches. Had I had a lot of fun and shot my tires at 7K… sure totally worth it.

 

[santoshm]

H

So it must be the added torque and weight. Oh well.

 

[Texarado]

Torque maybe possibly. Not weight.

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