FSD is not good enough for me. Sorry

[T35L4]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

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[CTInProcess]

Nonsense…..

 

[CyberGus]

As I've observed (as well as the YouTubers) this particular FSD release is biasing to the left, particularly on left turns. I've actually run over medians and hit barriers.

This seems to be unique to this release, hopefully it will be remedied quickly. Until it is, however, I agree that it's too dangerous for urban use.

 

[CTofLosGatos]

As I've observed (as well as the YouTubers) this particular FSD release is biasing to the left, particularly on left turns. I've actually run over medians and hit barriers.

This seems to be unique to this release, hopefully it will be remedied quickly. Until it is, however, I agree that it's too dangerous for urban use.

Same here. Ran over the dividers twice. Hopefully FSD is learning it from the sensors.

 

[SteelMyHeart]

Agree with over turning on lefts. On the highway it's speed and lane changing behavior is overall better than 12.3. It still waits way too late to get over to get to an exit.

 

[dalton108]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

YOU should definitely not use it. Because, what you’re telling us is that YOU allowed your car to go onto a light rail track endangering yourself and others? The system is not for you. You are not responsible enough to use the tool, so - please don’t. Thank you.

 

[Jack27]

As I've observed (as well as the YouTubers) this particular FSD release is biasing to the left, particularly on left turns. I've actually run over medians and hit barriers.

This seems to be unique to this release, hopefully it will be remedied quickly. Until it is, however, I agree that it's too dangerous for urban use.

Spot on. I used it a few times yesterday and I have kind of a blind turn and it’s pretty tight and someone laid on the horn and I don’t blame them it was way to close to oncoming traffic. I definitely don’t feel comfortable using it in Los Angeles on regular streets. If I need to be stressed out with my hand at the wheel at all times to make sure it Dosnt go rouge then I rather just drive my self

 

[ÆCIII]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

You've obviously not been researching or following Tesla's development plan, or either you're desperate to disparage FSD and chose this moment.

Tesla never has said FSD is 'good enough' right now as they are still in early to medium development of it through five (5) autonomy levels. FSD has currently not yet reached Level 4 - but Tesla nor the Tesla community has ever said they have reached Level 5 either.

You are obviously the type who reads one or two sentences of unofficial hype and runs with it - just the type of sheep that the MSM talking heads are looking for actually.

Tesla still has plenty of Disclaimers in their menus for FSD, and also the word "Beta" is still present in some of their menus. Do you even take the time to Read???

Tesla themselves are Also saying 'it's not good enough' because that's why you still have to have the cabin camera with Attention Monitoring feature, and be prepared to Take Over at any time. Tesla has not said anything otherwise yet. Tesla FSD development still has two more levels of autonomy to reach before it becomes 'good enough'. Almost everyone knows that (except you apparently).

Who am I kidding - you probably haven't even read this far in this post reply... SMH

If you have read this far - try doing your research please before posting a bunch of totally irrelevant wannabe hit piece style sound bites next time ...

(This response is mainly directed at the thread Title, and not necessarily all of the original post)​

- ÆCIII

 

[txtravwill]

I understand it's the best thing out there for the moment in terms of being close to autonomous but it certainly isn't good enough yet to drive itself without interventions in urban areas. If Robotaxis is the same as FSD 12.5.5, it would be highly risky I think. I love Tesla so I really want it to be good but it cuts corners too sharply and also misses things that it cannot classify such as plastic roadsigns that stick up in the middle of the street (it does see cones and other objects though). As an example of a dangerous scenario, mine made a turn and instead of going on the road, it went onto a local light rail track and followed that path instead which could be disastrous if one happened to have been oncoming.

If robotaxis release with even similar or slightly better than the CT in software and capabilities it would be a disaster on day 1.

 

[T35L4]

The level of defensiveness from some here is interesting. Hey, I respect your feedback and don't feel the need to get into it with you. You have the right to be angry at whatever you wish. I understand how much you want to defend Tesla and I think the CT is a great product in general. But every product has some issues. I'm just sharing my experience and I see others doing the same now that I have looked a bit deeper. I hope FSD improves quickly but the gap to actual full self-driving seems to be bigger than I and some others would have expected given the anticipation and the amount of years that have gone by now. I'm sure if you have used FSD for years, you probably have seen leaps of improvement but as a newcomer, it's surprising how much more there is to go. No shade is intended, just honesty.

 

[Crissa]

The level of defensiveness from some here is interesting.

Your post is nonsensical.

Of course it's not good enough. That's why it's supervised.

-Crissa

 

[affinity]

FSD (Supervised) is not for idiots..

 

[T35L4]

Your post is nonsensical.

Of course it's not good enough. That's why it's supervised.

-Crissa

That's cool to say supervised, but why cause cognitive dissonance by saying "Full Self Driving" when it's not full self driving at all? I think that's where a lot of people get hung up.

 

[ÆCIII]

That's cool to say supervised, but why cause cognitive dissonance by saying "Full Self Driving" when it's not full self driving at all? I think that's where a lot of people get hung up.

So you read and assimilate three words - but not a fourth word in parenthesis? I was right, the MSM are going to love you! ...

- ÆCIII

 

[Crissa]

That's cool to say supervised, but why cause cognitive dissonance by saying "Full Self Driving" when it's not full self driving at all? I think that's where a lot of people get hung up.

Is what you said supposed to make sense?

It does all the driving things, but needs to be supervised to do them. With the goal of eventually not needing to be supervised.

What are you trying to say? That you can't understand the words which are on the page? There's no other way to name something that's supposed to be full autonomy eventually without it being in the name.

-Crissa

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