FSD Cybertruck Option Vs. a Teslabot Driving a Cybertruck

[Richard V.]

FSD Cybertruck Option Vs. a Teslabot Driving a Cybertruck

I did not order FSD for my Cybertruck yet. I love driving my own vehicles too much for that. However, in a few years when I get my Cybertruck, I plan on keeping it for a long time. After all, it is rust proof and has few moving parts. That means there may come a time where having FSD would be useful, if not necessary. I like making long term plans. I have been doing personal 5 year plans pretty much all my life. I thing long term planning has served me well.

This is what I hope for in my future: Instead of paying for the FSD option for my Cybertruck could I buy a Teslabot (perhaps with a premium) and let my Teslabot drive the Cybertruck when I need it? Logically, I would spend a lot more time with the Teslabot than sitting in the Cybertruck. In addition, the Teslabot could be used for all sorts of tasks, including going to get groceries, doing things in the yard and at my land planting trees. Hey, what about playing hockey?

Ok lets go all in, what about if I get a Teslabot and have it drive my Cybertruck with FSD? Would that be even better and safer as a combo? I have no idea what the cost of a Teslabot would be, but if you can build a whole car for about $25K as stated, given the material cost of such a small "device", I think it could be quite affordable. Of course the secret sauce would be the AI capabilities. Why buy FSD if you can benefit from the AI on board the Teslabot? This replacement option ie; the Cybertruck FSD option by a Teslabot is an interesting choice that gives the owner extra degrees of freedom. That is an added market value IMO. Lastly, consider the Mars mission and how having a Teslabot driving a rover, as well as performing other tasks would be very beneficial.

Please feel free to comment, cheers!

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[Ogre]

Teslabot cannot be as safe as the FSD. It lacks the sensor suite and predictive models which are part of the FSD package.

in spite of science fiction ideas about what AI is capable of, machines are going to be task focused for some time.

Teslabot will likely be great atpicking up bricks and stacking them, but terrible at driving.

I’d bet they won’t even be able to drive at all.

 

[Crissa]

They'd be a great pair, though.

Errands ahoy.

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

They'd be a great pair, though.

Errands ahoy.

-Crissa

Yes, FSD gets it there, TeslaBot get the groceries.

Though grocery stores are increasingly offering pre-ordering options where a clerk brings the stuff to your car and loads it up for you. If Robotaxi works, couldn’t you just send FSD and have it pop the vault to let the grocery store’s employee TeslaBot load your groceries?

 

[Richard V.]

Teslabot cannot be as safe as the FSD. It lacks the sensor suite and predictive models which are part of the FSD package.

in spite of science fiction ideas about what AI is capable of, machines are going to be task focused for some time.

Teslabot will likely be great atpicking up bricks and stacking them, but terrible at driving.

I’d bet they won’t even be able to drive at all.

Hi Dennis, my thought was they would link to the car existing sensor suite in addition to their own. Perhaps if the Cybertruck does not have FSD enable that might limit access to the vehicle sensors.

What about the combo option? Would there be any value added?

 

[John K]

FSD is the current Tesla Bot.

you can employ subscription As an alternate. I worry Tesla will switch to a purely subscription model in with grandfathered vehicles dying of attritIon.

 

[Ogre]

Hi Dennis, my thought was they would link to the car existing sensor suite in addition to their own. Perhaps is the Cybertruck does not have FSD enable that might limit access to the vehicle sensors.

What about the combo option? Would there be any value added?

There are three pieces at play here. The sensors, the processor, and the software/ models.

The truck will have all three pieces.

The TeslaBot might have a better processor, but it won’t have the models or the cameras. Even if it could plug in and use the truck’s sensors, I don’t think Tesla would have software on the bot to drive.

It’s possible the bot could plug in and the truck could use the bot’s CPU to run it’s models. But then you are paying for FSD regardless.

Fundamentally, I think people have trouble with the concept of paying for software, but it’s something you can’t really get around. You will end up paying for FSD one way or the other.

 

[Richard V.]

There are three pieces at play here. The sensors, the processor, and the software/ models.

The truck will have all three pieces.

The TeslaBot might have a better processor, but it won’t have the models or the cameras. Even if it could plug in and use the truck’s sensors, I don’t think Tesla would have software on the bot to drive.

It’s possible the bot could plug in and the truck could use the bot’s CPU to run it’s models. But then you are paying for FSD regardless.

Fundamentally, I think people have trouble with the concept of paying for software, but it’s something you can’t really get around. You will end up paying for FSD one way or the other.

What about the following:
"Lastly, consider the Mars mission and how having a Teslabot driving a rover, as well as performing other tasks would be very beneficial."

Will the rovers need to be FSD? What are the communications dependencies in this case. Autonomous machines will have to be extremely autonomous, Right?

 

[Ogre]

FSD is the current Tesla Bot.

you can employ subscription As an alternate. I worry Tesla will switch to a purely subscription model in with grandfathered vehicles dying of attritIon.

In a recent call, I heard someone at Tesla suggest that the most economical way of getting FSD is by purchasing it.

…if you look at the pricing, the monthly pricing of FSD subscription, and then you compare that to the cost of either rolling FSD option into your lease or your loan, on a monthly basis, the most economical way for a customer to enjoy the features of full self-driving is through purchasing it upfront and rolling it through their financing.

Didn’t sound like they were leaning towards pushing the subscription model to me.

Based on comments from Musk and a few others at Tesla, they view this is an important safety feature and I wouldn’t be surprised if at some point they rolled it into the purchase price of the car.

This won’t happen with the Cybertruck, but I can see it with their top end cars shortly after FSD emerges from beta.

 

[Bill906]

Wonder if FSD could take control of the TeslaBot? FSD is in actual control of the vehicle, but TeslaBot is sitting in drivers seat with his hands on the wheel. Looking left and right at intersections, LOOKING like he's driving. No practical reason for this. Just would look cool. Wait, one semi practical use, he could wave cars to go when at a four way stop and you both got there at the same time. Or wave pedestrians the ok to cross in front of you.

 

[Ogre]

What about the following:
"Lastly, consider the Mars mission and how having a Teslabot driving a rover, as well as performing other tasks would be very beneficial."

Will the rovers need to be FSD? What are the communications dependencies in this case. Autonomous machines will have to be extremely autonomous, Right?

Rolling around on another planet, is a different problem space than driving around in a crowded city.

FSD won’t enable off-roading here on earth either. They are related problems but require different models.

 

[Crissa]

The truck will have the sensors and hardware needed for FSD. The bot will only have the processor.

It will have different sensors and a different navigation/task program related to the core development at Dojo, but won't have any of the traffic knowledge or driving configuration - it will not have the driving rules and navigation plotting loaded as it will not expect dojo to have maps of the insides of factories pre-loaded!

-Crissa

 

[Ogre]

Wonder if FSD could take control of the TeslaBot? FSD is in actual control of the vehicle, but TeslaBot is sitting in drivers seat with his hands on the wheel. Looking left and right at intersections, LOOKING like he's driving. No practical reason for this. Just would look cool. Wait, one semi practical use, he could wave cars to go when at a four way stop and you both got there at the same time. Or wave pedestrians the ok to cross in front of you.

Someone has to flip the morons the bird when the truck gets cut off.

Not sure if FSD would trigger it or the bot would do it on it’s own. Maybe it would be a collaborative thing where the truck rolls the window down and the bot flips the bird out the window.

 

[Richard V.]

The truck will have the sensors and hardware needed for FSD. The bot will only have the processor.

It will have different sensors and a different navigation/task program related to the core development at Dojo, but won't have any of the traffic knowledge or driving configuration - it will not have the driving rules and navigation plotting loaded as it will not expect dojo to have maps of the insides of factories pre-loaded!

-Crissa

I believe that the Teslabot will need to have some very basic understand of the road if it is to walk around the block. I am not convince yet that I need to spend $10,000 for FSD for the amount of driving I will need to do. I like driving. Just driving to a destination is half the fun.

 

[John K]

I will say what everyone is thinking, can you have intimate relations with the Teslabot?

Check your removable side mirror before judging me.

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