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[Cyberkingz]

It's not great. (not bad, either)

Many complain about GM or Lucid's charging curves being more aggressive which allows them to charge faster. Tesla has actually slowed charging on their fleet, likely to maintain battery health.

"Aggressive" is a good word. I would argue that Tesla's curve is more advanced than the aggressive ones because they seem to care more about cell balancing and overall long term health of the pack. Charge curves are easy, if Tesla wanted their cars to charge faster it would've been done years ago. I'm personally glad my Tesla doesn't slam the cells with max current at high SoC's. So the curve doesn't need fixing, at least i hope they don't "fix" it because I want my battery to last well past the warranty.
Pet peeve of mine when I see YouTube channels like Out of Spec Reviews talk about charge curves like being faster = better...nah.

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[Gigahorse]

What's wrong with the charging curve?

We were promised/teased 500kw charging, we get a tiny momentary spike to 500kw then the charge rate comes down. Takes 90mins for a full charge at a new 325kw super charger, if your towing a trailer and need to stop 4x to go 500miles your spending 6 hours charging your truck, not including dropping the trailer because there are not many pull through lots.
A day that would take 8 hours to tow a trailer 500 miles in an ICE vehicle takes almost 15 with the CT due to the pack being on the modest size and the charge curve being slow.

 

[Cyberkingz]

We were promised/teased 500kw charging, we get a tiny momentary spike to 500kw then the charge rate comes down. Takes 90mins for a full charge at a new 325kw super charger, if your towing a trailer and need to stop 4x to go 500miles your spending 6 hours charging your truck, not including dropping the trailer because there are not many pull through lots.
A day that would take 8 hours to tow a trailer 500 miles in an ICE vehicle takes almost 15 with the CT due to the pack being on the modest size and the charge curve being slow.

You should be very glad that your truck doesn't charge at 500KW the whole way up haha (if you care at all about cell health), the other OEMs allow for faster charging in effort to have some kind of selling point over tesla, but if you really understand it, their curves are terrible for the batteries. Secondly, if you're fully charging at a supercharger during road trips you're doing it wrong.

 

[SCTesla]

Secondly, if you're fully charging at a supercharger during road trips you're doing it wrong.

With towing you have to. When I was driving in the mountains in -4 temps the trip planner had me charge to 99% to get to the next stop.

 

[Gigahorse]

You should be very glad that your truck doesn't charge at 500KW the whole way up haha (if you care at all about cell health), the other OEMs allow for faster charging in effort to have some kind of selling point over tesla, but if you really understand it, their curves are terrible for the batteries. Secondly, if you're fully charging at a supercharger during road trips you're doing it wrong.

If your not charging to 100% with a big trailer you ain't gonna make it to the next supercharger in a lot of places

Driving the kids to Costco, sure low n slow charging makes sense to preserve the battery for 400,000 miles. But those of us using the CT as a work truck bought it based on 500kw charging and 10k towing capacity.

 

[Gigahorse]

With towing you have to. When I was driving in the mountains in -4 temps the trip planner had me charge to 99% to get to the next stop.

Exactly.
If I am zipping along on a 4 hour trip with my wife and kids on a family trip I am not charging above 70% most of the time. But people saying never charge above 80% have never towed a sizeable load across any significant distance in the CT

 

[Cyberkingz]

Exactly.
If I am zipping along on a 4 hour trip with my wife and kids on a family trip I am not charging above 70% most of the time. But people saying never charge above 80% have never towed a sizeable load across any significant distance in the CT

Sure. But if it were actually up to you and you had the choice - 90 minute charges or a pack of cells that struggles to make it past the warranty period, what would you actually choose? or are we just complaining?
I will add that if you do long distance towing regularly (opposed to short/medium distance), an electric truck is probably not for you.

 

[Bridgeboy69]

I will add that if you do long distance towing regularly (opposed to short/medium distance), an electric truck is probably not for you.

*Unless you're towing something that provides it's own propulsion and does not affect your range...

 

[Cyberkingz]

*Unless you're towing something that provides it's own propulsion and does not affect your range...

Those look awesome. I would love to have one someday

 

[Bridgeboy69]

Those look awesome. I would love to have one someday

Me too. I am hoping to get one, but I don't know if this dream will get realized or not... 🫤

 

[Gigahorse]

Sure. But if it were actually up to you and you had the choice - 90 minute charges or a pack of cells that struggles to make it past the warranty period, what would you actually choose? or are we just complaining?
I will add that if you do long distance towing regularly (opposed to short/medium distance), an electric truck is probably not for you.

That is the problem, it is NOT up to me. Tesla advertised 500kw charging but limits me to 123kw

Let me choose weather my battery pack lasts 400,000 miles or if I want to utilize the 500kw charging so I don't have to sit at a charger for 90mins. But don't advertise 500kw charging when the average across a charge session is 123kw.

Long distance towing with the CT would be no issue if the charging stations (no pull through) and charging rate (bad curve) were addressed as advertised.

 

[Cyberkingz]

That is the problem, it is NOT up to me. Tesla advertised 500kw charging but limits me to 123kw

Let me choose weather my battery pack lasts 400,000 miles or if I want to utilize the 500kw charging so I don't have to sit at a charger for 90mins. But don't advertise 500kw charging when the average across a charge session is 123kw.

Long distance towing with the CT would be no issue if the charging stations (no pull through) and charging rate (bad curve) were addressed as advertised.

I agree on the no pull through, it drives me bonkers with a trailer on.
I see where you're coming from, we do get 500kW as advertised but only at low SoC. I think they could do a special Tow Mode charging session curve, but then the warranty will need to be adjusted.

 

[Bridgeboy69]

Tesla advertised 500kw charging but limits me to 123kw

Just an honest question here, as I sometimes get confused with electricity measurements. But isn't this like 500kw (or 123kw) per a unit of time too? Like per hour? I'm sure you're probably just abbreviating assuming everyone knows what you mean, but I'm just trying to get it clear in my head.

 

[Cyberkingz]

Just an honest question here, as I sometimes get confused with electricity measurements. But isn't this like 500kw (or 123kw) per a unit of time too? Like per hour? I'm sure you're probably just abbreviating assuming everyone knows what you mean, but I'm just trying to get it clear in my head.

Wh = V x A

 

[boley]

With towing you have to. When I was driving in the mountains in -4 temps the trip planner had me charge to 99% to get to the next stop.

I haven't been in the situation of towing in the mountains at -4 degrees to get to the next stop, but I have discovered at least for my style of driving, the trip planner is a little conservative. I've found that if I dial it down to arrive at 5% charge and drive at 75 or less I have 8% when I arrive. Stopping at 95 or even 98% can significantly cut down on charging time, even if the planner thinks I'm cutting it close.

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