Rear Ended (55MPH to 60MPH) - FSD Started Turning Wheel Prior to First Collision to Prevent a Second Collision

[Tallgeese179]

Wow, we sound eerily similar: AWD, 0% financing via FSD purchase, and a toddler under 2. First, I wish you and your family the best. The material loss is annoying, but if it successfully mitigated injury then it really was a great steed. Really provides a concise response to "Why Do YOu nEeD a TaNK for tHe RoaD??" that some like to bring up. I need a fortress because my cargo is precious.

If you want to really get the granula data of what happened, use the Tesla Data Privacy Request form. I've requested the data for my whole ownership timeline and for a specific date. They send over the data pretty quick and in your case it should contain EDR data and possibly a detailed summary PDF of the whole accident event.

This guy posted and example of data he received after his accident:

Basically, they are monitoring and recording everything to a in-vehicle buffer that is selectively uploaded. It's stored somewhere by Tesla, but whether they keep it tied to your account or not seems to come down to some internally defined "safety event" triggers. These may or may not align with federally mandated triggers for EDR data recording, no way of knowing. The EDR information will also be stored on your airbag module, which is located under the center console. This requires some wiring to extract, but can be done by a crash reconstruction company.

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[benleejr]

Edit: I just looked at the 2nd video again, and I'm not so sure it was the CT that turned to the left, rather I think the Mitsubishi that hit you was angled to her right, so hit you off-axis and pushed you to the left.

but the steering angle was -6° a fraction of a second before the hit, so maybe the CT was trying to get out of the way. Dunno.

It is definitely hard to say as a layman and end user without further information or experience looking at telematics. Someone is going to have to work out the physics and forces applied here haha.

 

[benleejr]

Wow, we sound eerily similar: AWD, 0% financing via FSD purchase, and a toddler under 2. First, I wish you and your family the best. The material loss is annoying, but if it successfully mitigated injury then it really was a great steed. Really provides a concise response to "Why Do YOu nEeD a TaNK for tHe RoaD??" that some like to bring up. I need a fortress because my cargo is precious.

If you want to really get the granula data of what happened, use the Tesla Data Privacy Request form. I've requested the data for my whole ownership timeline and for a specific date. They send over the data pretty quick and in your case it should contain EDR data and possibly a detailed summary PDF of the whole accident event.

This guy posted and example of data he received after his accident:

Basically, they are monitoring and recording everything to a in-vehicle buffer that is selectively uploaded. It's stored somewhere by Tesla, but whether they keep it tied to your account or not seems to come down to some internally defined "safety event" triggers. These may or may not align with federally mandated triggers for EDR data recording, no way of knowing. The EDR information will also be stored on your airbag module, which is located under the center console. This requires some wiring to extract, but can be done by a crash reconstruction company.

Thank you. Glad that we were all kept safe from such crashes. It really does suck that this is probably a total loss.

I do not even want to label it as an accident because personally it looks like negligence at operating their motor vehicle. Laws and training regarding driving just seems really lax in most US states. People do not seem to care that all these vehicles are thousands of pounds and require their full attention when operating. So so many people are on their phones while driving.

I am definitely submitting a request for this. Thank you for reminding me about this option.

 

[benleejr]

Wow, we sound eerily similar: AWD, 0% financing via FSD purchase, and a toddler under 2. First, I wish you and your family the best. The material loss is annoying, but if it successfully mitigated injury then it really was a great steed. Really provides a concise response to "Why Do YOu nEeD a TaNK for tHe RoaD??" that some like to bring up. I need a fortress because my cargo is precious.

If you want to really get the granula data of what happened, use the Tesla Data Privacy Request form. I've requested the data for my whole ownership timeline and for a specific date. They send over the data pretty quick and in your case it should contain EDR data and possibly a detailed summary PDF of the whole accident event.

This guy posted and example of data he received after his accident:

Basically, they are monitoring and recording everything to a in-vehicle buffer that is selectively uploaded. It's stored somewhere by Tesla, but whether they keep it tied to your account or not seems to come down to some internally defined "safety event" triggers. These may or may not align with federally mandated triggers for EDR data recording, no way of knowing. The EDR information will also be stored on your airbag module, which is located under the center console. This requires some wiring to extract, but can be done by a crash reconstruction company.

What did you replace your CT with?

 

[kjright]

We were visiting the in-laws and this happens. Nobody in our Cybertruck needed a Ambulance ride. Metadata shows that FSD swerved to avoid a secondary collision with the Honda Pilot in front.

Painful thing was FSD was purchased outright along with the 0% deal. Waiting on my insurance. Other vehicle is apparently uninsured.

So sorry this happened, but glad all are ok. If this has to happen, might as well be in the safest truck on the road. Thankful for the Cyber Tank!

 

[Tallgeese179]

Thank you. Glad that we were all kept safe from such crashes. It really does suck that this is probably a total loss.

I do not even want to label it as an accident because personally it looks like negligence at operating their motor vehicle. Laws and training regarding driving just seems really lax in most US states. People do not seem to care that all these vehicles are thousands of pounds and require their full attention when operating. So so many people are on their phones while driving.

I am definitely submitting a request for this. Thank you for reminding me about this option.

Oh I completely agree, reckless behavior like this is closer to attempted manslaughter than an accident (in my eyes at least). It's daytime, no precipitation, etc...so if she "didn't see you" she is either legally blind or was looking elsewhere. If she has no assets to cover your loss then she should at the minimum permanently be removed from the road. This is a deadly crash in many other vehicles.

The distracted driving is unreal wild to me. You basically have take red lights and stop signs as suggestions for others. Also when I see any Nissan, Stellantis, or pre-2010 vehicle I completely defer to them. They can pass, cut off, etc. all they want I'm not honking or tailgating

 

[Tallgeese179]

What did you replace your CT with?

My truck wasn't totaled since it was superficial damage. I repaired it myself and am very happy that I chose the one vehicle in the road with no paint and very thick body panels. Would have been very expensive otherwise and never would have been back to OEM quality.

If it did get totaled, I think I'd just order another CT. There's nothing like it and anything else would just be a daily disappointment. Stupid twuck, ruining everything else for me

 

[The Duke]

This was the first thing I noticed as well. Very poor decision to turn into the oncoming lane.

Only a poor decision if it fails.

 

[mkdphx]

Glad the CT and FSD kept your family safe. I have been trying to get some traction on X to allow people that purchased FSD to either transfer or buy FSD in a replacement vehicle if the vehicle is totaled while using FSD. Here is the post, if you are on X I encourage you to post something similar if you agree.


Hey, @Elonmusk @Tesla_AI

If you bought FSD (or the Lux package) and your Tesla gets totaled while using FSD… please let owners transfer the FSD/Lux to a replacement vehicle — or repurchase it at current market rates.

Losing that big investment in a total loss already stings. This policy tweak would boost loyalty and owner confidence big time.

Tesla owners — fair request? @wholemars @SawyerMerritt @TeslaBoomerMama

#Tesla #FSD #FullSelfDriving

 

[DarickHemphill]

This is my biggest fear of having nice cars, other dipshits ruining them. And losing FSD on top of that just is depressing. On the flip side, if you had been in anything else, that rear would be completely mangled. My wifes forester was hit in a similar way and the rear was completely pushed into the rear bench.

Glad your family is all safe. Sometimes whiplash doesn’t appear till the next day.

Wouldnt the person who hit you have to pay to make you whole, so a lifetime of FSD payments whould be part of the settlement?

 

[devdrone6]

In an ideal world yes, but not in the real world. And a lot of drivers now carry very little to no insurance because of costs. And it would require lawyers involved to even attempt to get that from your own insurance companies.

 

[benleejr]

My truck wasn't totaled since it was superficial damage. I repaired it myself and am very happy that I chose the one vehicle in the road with no paint and very thick body panels. Would have been very expensive otherwise and never would have been back to OEM quality.

If it did get totaled, I think I'd just order another CT. There's nothing like it and anything else would just be a daily disappointment. Stupid twuck, ruining everything else for me

Yeah it is totaled. 46k in repairs 44k salvage. Has to be legally totaled in Texas. Now I wait for a deal somewhere.

 

[benleejr]

Glad the CT and FSD kept your family safe. I have been trying to get some traction on X to allow people that purchased FSD to either transfer or buy FSD in a replacement vehicle if the vehicle is totaled while using FSD. Here is the post, if you are on X I encourage you to post something similar if you agree.


Hey, @Elonmusk @Tesla_AI

If you bought FSD (or the Lux package) and your Tesla gets totaled while using FSD… please let owners transfer the FSD/Lux to a replacement vehicle — or repurchase it at current market rates.

Losing that big investment in a total loss already stings. This policy tweak would boost loyalty and owner confidence big time.

Tesla owners — fair request? @wholemars @SawyerMerritt @TeslaBoomerMama

#Tesla #FSD #FullSelfDriving

That would be nice. Posting on X!

 

[mkdphx]

You might want to reach out to your local Tesla showroom and ask if they have any means to allow a transfer or purchase for your replacement vehicle, worth a shot. Maybe even try DM to Elon on X

 

[HaulingAss]

You might want to reach out to your local Tesla showroom and ask if they have any means to allow a transfer or purchase for your replacement vehicle, worth a shot. Maybe even try DM to Elon on X

The insurance company (assuming benleejr had uninsured motorist coverage) is required to cover the value of the vehicle, including any options like FSD. Because FSD is no longer available to purchase outright, the simplest solution would be to find a Cybertruck for sale with similar condition and miles (and also having lifetime FSD). Because lifetime FSD transfers from the original owner to each subsequent owner.

Getting Tesla to transfer the FSD, while also being compensated for FSD, by receiving the full market value of the truck with FSD, by either the insurance company, or a lawsuit settlement between the two parties, would constitute fraud in all 50 states. In effect, you would be collecting the value of FSD twice, once getting paid for it via the value of the totaled car (with the FSD option) while not actually losing the FSD option. You could argue the market doesn't fully value the lifetime FSD option, but that's a separate argument. You would have to ensure the valuation provided by the insurance company was consistent with a vehicle in that condition and mileage that didn't have FSD.

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