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Interesting perspective. I think some good points here, however, one fundamental consideration: Has Tesla ever released a product in its category not ahead of its competition? I don’t think so if they do not release something that beats Rivian and Ford lightning in overall performance, it...

Ugh. I wish we were seeing something closer to a shippable sample, even for RC units - - makes me think we may be further off than hoped for launch. Will be very disappointed if October ticks by without another update from Tesla

R1T bed looks tiny. It is small in real life but looks moreso next to the CT

There’s some extreme off road at Hollister- Looks like they waited for no one to be around for that part…

Yep. That’s my point. Not recent and 4 yrs ago I just read the other thread of the Baja “owner” string it’ll go 500mi, but that’s not official from Tesla. I pray we’ll see 450-500. Would be awesome.

When?

I read that article as well. I cannot comment what is real or not real on it but it seems odd that weight is not amongst the top design considerations from the get go It makes it sound like they’re retroactively trying to take weight out after they got it on the scales and it was fatty fat -...

He’s been pretty accurate Tesla = Apple anyhow

It depends what type of offloading. You want a wide base if you are desert running and need large 35 inch tires to articulate and stay within the fender wells. This is why the raptor and TRX are so wide compared to the regular F150 however, if you are trail running, like a jeep would you would...

I guess Ford and Rivian missed that as well…

Wow!! ?

Why would I do that? I’m at the top of the list. Been waiting almost 4 years. I will definitely take delivery. Hopefully it’ll be as promised and worth the wait.

Uh no. Not saying that at all. Point is quite simple: collecting $200 million in reservations for a product that was supposed to be delivered almost three years ago. Is poor form and calling out. Corporate governance is not at all a conspiracy theory or a stretch when you look at the practice...

Governance as is in corporate governance, as in transparency & accountability, are main tenets of it

I’m well aware we can get $100 back - that’s not my point My point is it now being October it’s technically another miss / broken promise by Tesla. Getting old and poor form for Tesla. This thread says, get ready for October,… Based on what?

Was there an update from Tesla ? It was supposed to be third-quarter so everyone was hoping it would be September. Nothings been said, nothing happened, now it’s October. Kind of surprising a company can hold $100-$200 million+ in deposits for years without any governance. If they’re not...

Where when was this statement made? Sorry if it has been covered and I missed it.

No measuring tape on you?

No details on my order now from reveal ~1,400 in line Tri, no FSD

It’s actually much bigger than the Tacoma in every dimension: 5 inches longer 7 inches wider 7 inches taller it’s just as close to an F150 as it is to a Tacoma