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I think more likely some cost will be passed on to non Tesla owners in the form of costlier recharging.

I’m scared to say anything, I’m still recovering from my last thrashing.

That’s a good read.

The model Y tow package that Crissa linked to uses a 7 pin connector which would include the typically blue wire used to control trailer brakes so you can rest assured the CT will work great with your trailer brakes.

I have already said you win. No need to kick a fella when he’s down.

I’m not familiar with RVs. Do you mean a typical brake controller like used to pull trailers or a brake Controller used to tow the CT behind an RV? I‘m sure it will have a typical controller for pull behind trailers.

This is not that complicated. The answer is because the stopped vehicles can not be seen visually. Can’t be seen by me, can’t be seen by you, cant be seen by the occupants, can’t be seen by any of the Tesla’s video cameras, there are no visual clues for any cameras to pick up on. There is no...

That is very interesting. A lot to consider.

Yes Sir I will concede that it is an assumption but it is an assumption derived from only a few possibilities that in the end only leave one plausible explanation. It’s ironic that so many here are rallying around the video only Teslavision and proclaiming how much better video is than radar but...

My evidence is the video. Just watch it. No room for interpretation. There is no hidden agenda in the video, just use common sense when watching it.

The video posted earlier in this thread is why I want radar. Some here would lead you to believe the radar had nothing to do with the car stopping but they are wrong. It was radar, and radar only, that told the car to brake. Cameras had zero to do with the car braking in that particular situation.

Sandy Munro posted a video on YouTube today and he said QUOTE “Tesla giving up on radar is goofy”

Your comparison isn’t valid as I never mentioned FSD. I did not order FSD because I do not want it at this time. I would rather have radar than FSD for the extra 10k.

Come on man, no way that was not radar. The date stamp on vid is 2016

Thanks for the link and I will certainly watch it sometime in the morning but gotta get kids down and call it a night. Lastly though, I would be plenty happy with radar that is not fused with the rest of the system. Just give me an audible tone when there is a traffic pile or dump truck ahead...

In this video you can plainly see the hood of the car nosedive from automatic braking before the driver was ever aware of the stopped traffic ahead. Not only was the driver unaware, neither were the Tesla’s cameras!

The model S still has radar so in that case it seems both systems failed.

Thank you for the video! This is almost exactly the situation I had imagined. It would be absolutely impossible for a camera only system to have detected and stopped. Absolutely impossible.

That would not be ideal. Is that currently an issue with the Teslas? I’m genuinely asking because I haven’t owned a Tesla yet. My current truck is equipped with radar but I haven’t had that issue so far.

I believe you are correct. Predicting traffic speed 2-3 cars ahead was one of my original examples of the value of radar. Traffic is standing still in the distance and the car in front of you is playing candy crush on his phone and rear ends the traffic at full speed. Your Tesla with RADAR is...