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As mentioned I could afford it but would prefer the added range and bigger bed of a cyber tent. If I wanted more convenience I’d get a pebble which would not affect range and still allow use of my bed & range extender.

Do I really have to explain the difference between an ad hominem implication vs an ad hominem statement? Shirley you cannot be serious…

Suggesting one’s ABILITY to do anything is laughable (ie. Not credible) with no evidence is Ad Hominem.

All valid points but if you do the math you could—as you put it—cobble together most of these benefits for about 1/10th of the price and still not lose much range and have room for the range extender. As I’ve stated from the jump, the issue I have with this Kit is not the benefits but the fact...

sorry but you continue to reinforce your ignorance on the matter….if you really need me to explain why implying that one’s arguments are not credible (i.e. laughable) due to their inability to perform accurate market analysis without any proof, then I think you are simply unable to grasp the...

tell me you don’t know the different types of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know the different types of ad hominems…

umm incorrect. They implied that my ability to perform accurate market analysis was laughable even though I had not provided it to them.

Why do you ask?

Ah resorting to ad hominems?? a sure sign of a poster with nothing relevant to offer Agreed on most points. Keep in mind this KIT is effectively an enclosure not much bigger than the cyberTent (in SF of area) that offers a shower & portable toilet. There are heated shower boxes like the...

I’ll have to charge you for my analysis. ?But do some market research and you’ll realize that their decision is alienating the majority of their potential customers. If you don’t believe that doesn’t result in a statistically low chance of success, then perhaps you could show your work. ?

No way to get 200 miles with camp gear + the Kit + passengers especially on the TriMotor.

Question is why not include it with the last update which was enormous?

sure people make illogical decisions all the time—point being, by not accommodating the range extender the designers have painted themselves into a very tight corner making it statistically highly unlikely it will be successful.

then the cyber tent would be a much better solution.

Money isn’t the main issue…as mentioned I own a Cyberbeast and I wouldn’t buy this kit for all the reasons I posted but mainly due to the fact that it does not allow the use of the range extender…and like you I camp and am fine using my pop up and rinsePro to shower if need-be…I could post some...

let the record show, this poster who vehemently defended this Kit, and stated that it effectively covered their “Use Case” perfectly, did not even put down $100 for a preorder…. Case closed

You just proved my point.

When did you place your preorder on this kit?

we don’t need to know the precise number to know the range will be drastically reduced…. based on the hit to range reported by owners who had cargo bed payloads near max capacity (which by all accounts this kit will approach) the range will likely be cut in half…

Not complaining….merely stating facts… and yes you clearly conflated 2 different thoughts…the fact that you continue to miss the distinction is telling… moreover, disregarding actual facts as nonsense is even more telling of your desperation in trying to make a valid point…