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So if you can't haul 4x8 sheets of plywood?

This REALLY is not a truck. More and more people that are around it call it a versatile utility vehicle. The Promotion People at Tesla just wanted to hook "Truck guys" into feeling comfortable buying it so they labeled it cyber"Truck".

If all the other parameters stay the same going from ICE to EV is going to have the greatest emotional shift the older one is. I am in my 60's. I have hated ICE all my life, from lawn mowers to cars. I daydream about the main form of transportation being a horse though I am NOT THAT OLD to know...

I especially like how you moved the front tire to the very front of the frame?

You made seat belts pop into my head.... All my life they have been in a car but not until the 1990's were there laws that took the decision away from the individual to wear them. I expect Johnny Law to decide whether FDS will be a choice while on public roads. Off topic...the reason I want...

Already there are parameters, so our freedom has not been taken away. One of the things you can set is how far over the speed limit you would allow the car to travel. That is limited, but you still have some control, even to the extent it "allows you" to break the law. I have heard...

My vote: YOU should not be allowed to drive when FSD becomes a reality. (Me? I can't figure out why I would want to except one case.... when I want to get there FAST!) I will so willingly allow the steering wheel to be removed from my cyber, and the front seats faced backwards, and into a...

My issue was simply in Tesla/Elon either NOT establishing clear "first principles," or abandoning them so people with small garages can buy a vehicle that was designed based on first principles and then abandoned. TESLA is the "FIRST PRINCIPLES" Police. It is their mantra. And it makes me pause...

what "Mustang" was cancelled?

I was of course kidding but while we are on the subject )And I've learned that this board doesn't really expect members to stay on topic.... I believe Elon prices a vehicle and then does the Hershey's chocolate manufacturing of the item by putting in as much as he can before going into...

Post 17 on this thread... " Did I read that RIGHT! 3%? It's gonna cost 3% less!"

You are new here? The "30X" refers to the chemistry of the stainless steel. The "X" is unknown.

BUT. I also believe that SOMEHOW I am never going to go, "Damn it! If it was just a little bit larger...."

So? You do realize they designed the Cyber, not me. Ask them if they designed it the way they did originally. I had faith that they used "First Principles" when determining the interior dimensions of the cabin. And now they've significantly reduced those dimensions by 3.5 inches? So the...

I played BB with some of the greats... and they had an official rule when guarding me.... you couldn't try to steal the ball unless I went inside the 3-point line. I am only 6'2". What was so strange was when I'd play in pick-up games they'd expect me to play at the rim because I was "so Tall."...

i get what you are saying, but first principles would identify what the interior cabin space should be and the exoskeleton would be built around that. And "fitting in a small garage" would not be on the same first principle level as the "correct size for occupants." When word came out the...

Just concerning this "choice" of reducing the overall size of the Cyber... So the "first principles". Elon, explain how the change in the Cyber was done because the engineering team failed to follow first principles? I wrongly surmised that all the reductions were done because a little dead...

no.

I recognise that you have thought of "Robo-taxi" as a side gig. And I feel as though if the robo-taxi happens then most of the other potential side gigs you listed will not be able to exist. And "robo-taxi" won't be a side gig. That is in no way meant to invalidate your position about side...

Truthfully? I think outdoors_jp just convinced. I've been thinking that even Elon should just re-look at his whole "First Principles," and let someone that wants to do the Baja thing do it with a cyber... Keep the engineer boys on making the cyber best for the masses.