A Unionized Tesla Workforce Could Benefit All Parties

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A Unionized Tesla Workforce Could Benefit All Parties

Allowing workers to join the United Auto Workers would benefit not only employees but the company itself.

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Carolyn Fortuna

Today, all political and all age cohorts hold record or near-record positive views favoring labor over big business. The steady rise in public support for labor and concurrent declining support for big business suggests a transformational shift in employer/employee relations. A unionized Tesla workforce right now could benefit Tesla as it would follow a shift in public opinion in favor of organized labor.

As someone who self-financed my own college education through to a doctorate, I experienced firsthand the vagaries of being a restaurant worker. I remember walking into the kitchen and ducking as a French knife flew across my field of vision. I heard constant tirades and slurs. My co-workers and I stood on our feet, hour after hour, without a break. We were paid below minimum wage during periods when no tipping customers were present. Health insurance or vacation time? Advanced notice of schedule? Sick days? Not for us as restaurant workers.

Post-higher education, I entered the teacher workforce and spent 20 years as a secondary English educator. Supported by the Massachusetts Teachers Association and the National Education Association, I received pay increases based on performance reviews, years served, and education accumulated. Health benefits allowed my family to have security. Length of work days, descriptions of duties, protocols for everything from acceptable work behavior to emergencies — the union collaborated and negotiated with the school district as to what an appropriate workplace should be like.

Being part of a union changed my life. A unionized Tesla workforce is an opportunity that could improve Tesla, give a boost to thousands of staff, and help Tesla’s image and long-term vision.

Infrastructure Bill Draws upon Union Support
The Senate gave overwhelming bipartisan approval on August 10 to a $1 trillion infrastructure bill to rebuild the nation’s deteriorating roads and bridges and fund new climate resilience and broadband initiatives, delivering a key component of President Biden’s agenda. The vote, which was 69 to 30, was “uncommonly bipartisan,” according to the New York Times.

The bipartisan endorsement that included a nod to transportation should be instructive to Tesla. Joining US President Biden for the public face of the announcement were executives from General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis, who made broad and noble statements about their commitments to electric transportation. Electric vehicles, however, are only a merest hint of these companies’ US sales, with 1.5% for GM, 1.3% for Ford, and none yet for Stellantis so far this year.

Tesla, which manufactures only battery electric vehicles, was excluded from the White House photo shoots and conversations. “Yeah, seems odd that Tesla wasn’t invited,” responded Tesla CEO Elon Musk in a tweet responding to a CleanTechnica article about it.



That exclusion makes me sad.

Tesla has been nothing less than revolutionary as it has opened up the US and world to all-electric transportation. By making electric transportation mainstream, it disrupted a legacy industry and offered a new business model and consumer approach. (Disclaimer: I am a Tesla stockholder.)

The United Automobile, Aerospace, and Agriculture Workers (UAW) union was also at the White House ceremony.

UAW-represented workplaces range from multinational corporations, small manufacturers and state and local governments to colleges and universities, hospitals, and private non-profit organizations. The UAW has more than 400,000 active members in more than 600 local unions and has 1,150 contracts with some 1,600 employers in the US, Canada, and Puerto Rico. The UAW represents workers at GM, Ford, and Stellantis, but has been battling, so far unsuccessfully, to organize Tesla workers at its US plant in Fremont, California.

Indeed, right now Tesla is the only large US automaker without a unionized workforce. UAW spokesperson Brian Rothenberg said he was not aware that Tesla was not invited to the event.

Court Rulings on Tesla Unionization Controversies
In 2017, Tesla workers at its auto plant contacted the UAW to seek assistance to unionize. “We have a long history of engaging directly with our employees on the issues that matter to them, and we will continue to do so because it’s the right thing to do,” a Tesla spokesperson countered.

Administrative judge Amita Tracy pointed to 12 company actions in 2019 that violated US labor laws. That included letting security guards harass workers who were passing out union pamphlets in the parking lot, banning employees from wearing pro-union T-shirts and buttons, repeatedly interrogating union organizers, and eventually firing one of them.

Later, the National Labor Relations Board based their decision on Tracy’s ruling from 2019 and ordered Tesla to make Tesla’s chief executive delete a tweet that was seen as threatening to labor organizers who were discussing how to unionize within the company. The federal board also ordered Tesla to reinstate a terminated employee, Richard Ortiz, who was a union advocate. The order added that Elon Musk had illegally threatened workers with the loss of stock options if they unionized.

The Guardian reports that complaints from workers over being fired for engaging in efforts to unionize at Tesla have become common. “I was a union supporter. I wore a union shirt almost every day to work, and my supervisor at the time asked me why I wore it,” said Jim Owen, who left the Tesla factory in Fremont, California, in March 2018 due to concerns for his safety after a robot almost severely injured him while working on car hoods. “He told me upper management wouldn’t appreciate me wearing it.”

Unionization Would Be Good for Tesla & Its Workers
President Biden has taken a big step toward reducing greenhouse gas emissions with an executive order aimed at making half of all new vehicles sold in 2030 electric, a move made with vocal backing from the prominent US automakers. “The biggest thing that’s happening here is there’s a realization, on the part of both labor and business now, that this is the future. We can’t sit by,” Biden told reporters at the White House.

Clearly, Tesla is not a company content to “sit by” — it continually files patentsto improve the quality of Tesla manufacturing. But, as a longtime Fremont autoworker wrote in Fortune, “We will only have a truly sustainable future if workers have a seat at the table throughout the transition from oil, gas, and internal combustion engines to batteries, charging stations, and zero-emission vehicles.”

Workers want to unionize so that they can have input into wages, hours, working conditions, and the many other issues that arise in the relationship between a worker and employer. Unions help set the standards for education, skill levels, wages, working conditions, and quality of life for workers. While not always the case, union-negotiated wages and benefits are generally superior to what non-union workers receive.

In Germany right now, labor unions are pressuring Tesla. It’s likely there will be a public relations campaign and protests to exert political and social pressure on Tesla to become what is considered a good corporate citizen. There could be organized rolling strikes or guerilla actions like slowing down work at a Tesla supplier or attempts to influence Tesla’s leadership from within.

The Biden administration has promised to strengthen union rights, incentivize unionization, and encourage collective bargaining. Research exposes how public feeling today toward labor is more positive, and public feeling toward big business more negative, than at any time in 5 decades. Workers increasingly want to unionize: over half of US workers say they would vote to unionize at their place of employment, while only 11% of US employees currently belong to one.

The bottom line is that, if Tesla was to become a union shop, both sides would benefit. With a stable workforce comes predictable labor costs. Tesla would be viewed publicly as an employer that makes a workforce safer, more productive, and more effective through training, better equipment, and making better use of their knowledge. The UAW, in turn, can be transparent in recognizing the needs of Tesla to be responsive to customers and competitive in its markets. It has already stated recently that the auto industry is now investing billions in the growth of electric vehicles, which could result in major changes in where and how vehicles are produced.

A recent survey from Consumer Reports found a third of US car buyers are considering an electric car the next time they purchase a new car. Having a Tesla company story that involves union workers and living wages would be a competitive advantage commercially, as those soon-to-be EV drivers would be more likely to choose a Tesla if their new car had been manufactured at a union facility.


SOURCE: CleanTechnica
Don’t see any actual truth in any of the premises….sorry, No.
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There are functions a Union provides that aren't tied to compensation, such as representation and being invested in labor protections rather than protecting the company, and political solidarity as well.

Which is why they're important. They're an opposing force to employers' demands and illegality. Working together can counterbalance loads of money and FUD.

-Crissa
No thank you. Will you also push to sell Tesla cars and trucks through dealerships? It’s a new world. not 1950.
 

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I am confused. First you post the pro-union article and then you post a non-union statement. Make up your mind. Tesla workers are not forbidden from joining or forming a union. If they did they would give up stock options and what would they gain? I was a faculty member once, and a restaurant worker, and a slew of other things. I think of myself as pro labor, because I think we should honor the workers and punish unbridled greed wherever and whenever it rears it’s ugly head. The play between business and labor is thus necessary. The workers have to make the decision for themselves.
his first post was sarcasm at it best.....the second one the best effort
 

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Which is a strong reason to not have them in Tesla or any other decent place of work. Political activism in the work place is like a rogue hand pulling on the wheel of a ship. You wouldn't want a 'disgruntled' passenger jerking the wheel of your car at a critical moment while you (or the car's FSD) is driving would you? Not sure unions are good for the workplace or the country any more.

Think about it, if the UAW was really beneficial, wouldn't they have helped to steer ICE car manufacturers in a more healthy direction starting much earlier, instead of the dive course they are on now - obviously trying to corruptly smoodge the government for another undeserved taxpayer bailout? Seems like unions would be also just another degenerative element in the workplace for disgruntled or incompetent workers, to gain corrupt undeserved leverage and thereby choking production and the company.

Even now, those who are pro-union in this post are often coinciding with one-sided political bias, which is certainly not good. Not good at all.

Tesla knows this and has always known this. If Tesla had been entangled by a union throughout it's growth since 2003, I don't think we would have nearly the successes in Tesla we are realizing today. In fact, if Tesla had been entangled by unions it might not even still exist today.

I just don't think political elements in the workplace are sustainable, as they inherently add instability. It seems like unions are beginning to realize people are on to this, with their lack of viability becoming more apparent and are thus feeling threatened by it, which would explain the sudden push for unions by some.

Smart sustainability and political instability are obviously not compatible, which I think is why UAW and other competitive elements are now showing their 'fear' of Tesla. But their 'fear' of Tesla in actuality is their insecurities about their own processes and agendas - often being incompatible with cohesive work production; so in their self-hindering mindsets they know they can't compete.

Respectfully,

-ÆCIII
weren't unions originally established for the protection of child labor
 


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Actually, there has to be some benefits for companies, otherwise why would companies sign up to be part of a union. I'm a retired Sheet Metal Worker, and there were lots of times shops would join our union. One of the main benefits of joining our union would be having access to well-trained workers. In our union, it took 4 1/2 years of training on the job and night school to be a journeyman. In construction, it can be feast or famine for companies as far as how much work they have and how many well-trained employees they need. With being part of a union, a company can bid on jobs that they don't currently have the workforce for, knowing that the union will have trained people to fill those jobs. Also, if your company is bidding on work outside the area you are in, the union will supply the workers needed. It's not all a rosy picture as I have drawn, but there are benefits for a company.

I'm not against non-union, I actually know some people that have done very well for themselves working non-union. One of the benefits they had, is that once they have shown what a beneficial employee you are for that company they really don't want to lose you, they are more loyal to their best workers. Whereas, if you are in a union of well-trained people, the company looks at you as being fairly easy to be replaced at times.

As a customer, you know the company that bid on the job will have well-trained employees that will complete the job in a timely fashion. And are being treated fairly.

As an employee, how many 60yr old retired non union sheet metal workers you think there are? For that matter how many over 50 yr olds have jobs with non union sheet metal shops?

Investor? Hmmm, how many investors care whether a company is union? I would think you're looking at, will the investment make money or not. Personally, I am invested in Tesla, and I do care a bit about having my money in a company that treats employees fairly (which I think Tesla does).
companies don't sign up - it's law if employees vote that way.
 

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We wouldn’t need the union if management played fair.
 

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I think this is a completely inappropriate post. Really don’t care about your political opinions; my opinion is that...
The original post was informative. The article was political. Your post was not apolitical, either.

Non-unionized workforces get paid less, suffer more injury, and in the end, have more long-term disease and poverty, which requires more public funding.

If that's not what you want, you'll have to figure out another way to get it. But so far, no one has.

-Crissa

No thank you. Will you also push to sell Tesla cars and trucks through dealerships? It’s a new world. not 1950.
That's completely unrelated to my post or unions.

And Tesla has been doing this?
There's no evidence of this.
 


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Unions are a terrible idea these days. It'll slow Tesla down, add cost and debt, limit employee advancement, limit pruning the dead brush. I have compared union and non-union shops in industries and the waste, in efficiencies and general poor morale pervades the union shops. Terrible.
 

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would that be after the employees have voted to certify as a union shop?
As I was explaining in my first post, companies become signatory contractors on their own accord all the time. When that happens, employees are assigned a classification of what pay/ skill level they will be at in that union. Based on their experience at that company. Usually the employees realize the benefits of being in a union are well worth it, but sometimes they don't, and they quit working for that employer.
Unions are not always the boogieman. There are benefits to unions, as I stated earlier. Personally, I don't have a problem with Tesla being a non-union company, because it seems like they treat their employees fairly.
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