Electric scooter(s) + plugs in the frunk

[Suskis]

Being CT this big means I won't be able to park it exactly where I would like to, so I think one or two foldable electric scooter will be the perfect choice to cover that last couple of kms. If the frunk is going to be as big as we think, it could be the perfect place to store them without using the vault. Do you think it's possible there will be electric plugs in the frunk as well? Recharging the scooters while using the truck would be perfect for me.

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[Crissa]

That was the presentation at the reveal, yes. They parked an ATV inside the bed and plugged into the truck.

-Crissa

 

[fritter63]

Do you think it's possible there will be electric plugs in the frunk as well?

Nobody knows, wait for the the actual reveal from Tesla.

 

[Scott Beall]

That was the presentation at the reveal, yes. They parked an ATV inside the bed and plugged into the truck.

-Crissa

I've been wondering about that. As I recall, TSLA announced that they were making an ATV. I think I ordered one with the truck. Have we heard anything about it since the reveal?

 

[fritter63]

nobody knows.

Feel free to indulge in Mental masturbation.

 

[cvalue13]

It would be bananas for Tesla to not put plugs in the frunk.

 

[hridge2020]

It would be bananas for Tesla to not put plugs in the frunk.

Looks like a cover to some charging port by the bananas

 

[cvalue13]

Looks like a cover to some charging port by the bananas

don’t I know it

 

[fritter63]

don’t I know it

@cvalue13 what are the the little (lights?) to the right of the 30 amp plug?

 

[cvalue13]

@cvalue13 what are the the little (lights?) to the right of the 30 amp plug?

they are buttons. The green one on bottom turns “on” the “pro power” zone located in the bed of the truck. The two white ones above, are breaker switches for reconnecting the 240 or 110s after a fault

It indirectly raises an (to me) interesting point not just about whether the CT has plugs in the bed, but what kind of approach CT might take towards the (to some) unexpected consequences of safety and use-cases contemplated in the electrical design of the overall aux power features of the truck

in the Lightning, there are basically 3 ‘zones’ of power: cabin outlets, frunk outlets, and bed outlets. Turning “on” the pro power system activates first and only the cabin, with either the frunk or bed needing individual selection to be powered up. It’s not that the truck drives around with all plugs constantly hot.

And, each zone has its own, individual, cumulative draw limits. The bed zone has the highest (I think 9.2kw in the Lightning and in the ICE vehicles I think 7.4kw the largest). Depending on what one plugs in, simultaneously, cumulative draw can trip the zone breaker.

There’s then also a “choose your own adventure” setting for an overall vehicle limiting power reserve. Say you want to, I don’t know, drive home eventually: you might set power reserve at 30% of battery life, at which point any plug in use will shut down and pro power system become inoperable (unless overridden).

Finally and maybe most interesting (in practical terms), is that pickup trucks have no ground (like, to the actual ground). So, the plugs are built with a ‘bonded neutral.’ That’s all what you want if powering big things like tools on job sites.

But it also means you cannot simply plug the truck into your house’s generator plug - because you’ll have a’ground loop’ that (correctly) causes the truck to throw its breaker. To use the plug to back power a home (absent a V2H system), the only solution is to use a separate sub-panel/transfer switch that is designed to solve that. Ain’t cheap equip to do so. (Assuming you want to do things by code, or not use things dubbed “suicide cable” - though many don’t seem to mind and use those sorts of work-arounds.)

Anyhow, all of that is context to say: it will be interesting to see Tesla’s functional approach to managing any similar significant aux power system.

 

[hridge2020]

Cyber Scooter will travel in bed of truck.

 

[Crissa]

Finally and maybe most interesting (in practical terms), is that pickup trucks have no ground (like, to the actual ground). So, the plugs are built with a ‘bonded neutral.’ That’s all what you want if powering big things like tools on job sites.

But it also means you cannot simply plug the truck into your house’s generator plug - because you’ll have a’ground loop’ that (correctly) causes the truck to throw its breaker.

This should not be true, since most generators also have a floating ground. Some electronics complain, but why would the truck?

-Crissa

 

[cvalue13]

This should not be true, since most generators also have a floating ground. Some electronics complain, but why would the truck?

-Crissa

I have no knowledge or why it’s true, whatsoever.

I just know of a few dozen folks who have had to deal with it in frustrating detail to make their truck work as a generator for their house. And Ford materials describe the bonded neutral issue (feature?)

That said, my unfamiliar knowledge is that there are generators that are or are not set up like this as well.

I don’t use generators for tools or much of anything to have any personal familiarity.

 

[CyberGus]

This should not be true, since most generators also have a floating ground.

Elon said the Cybertruck would float

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