First post - glad to be here!

[hemiarch]

GET IT DIRTY!!!!!!!

Best piece of advice so far. Hands down.

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[Fort Worth Cyber]

I still like to “gun it” when my wife is looking at her phone.

The Beast is just too much fun.

congrats and welcome!

 

[UberNoob]

@HaulingAss - Thank you! I did get FSD.. I figured I'm going to be keeping the truck for a good, long time so I could rationalize the spend up on it.

You are right - the power is awesome and you are right - trouble could be on you QUICK with something this big and heavy moving that fast . I have a Plaid (S) and am well accustomed to the speed of my car, but the Beast is just different.. it's got some heft to it!

One thing I noticed is that the brakes... aren't truly a good match for the power of the truck. I'm going to be researching brake upgrades for sure... it would benefit from them!

Welcome Brother ?,
IMO, if your using the brakes your driving it wrong on most cases. Leave extra follow distance, also sometimes I think FSD is using them also.

 

[HaulingAss]

@HaulingAss - Thank you! I did get FSD.. I figured I'm going to be keeping the truck for a good, long time so I could rationalize the spend up on it.

Nice, FSD is worth it considering how quickly it's becoming better than a human in most common situations.

One thing I noticed is that the brakes... aren't truly a good match for the power of the truck. I'm going to be researching brake upgrades for sure... it would benefit from them!

What tires do you have? A brake upgrade could benefit if you plan to race on a track, but it's a pickup! I don't know anyone who competes in trucks (although I've heard of it). The OEM brakes have more than enough power and thermal capacity to do a high speed emergency stop without being brake limited. How fast you stop is dependent upon the grip of your tires. You do have to step on the pedal harder than with many passenger cars to achieve threshold braking but it's not such an excessive force that you need athletic muscles to reach threshold braking, you just have to be willing to push hard (and modern cars with overly boosted power brakes have conditioned people to think they don't have to push much). Better brakes and discs will not improve the emergency braking at all.

After hearing people bemoan that the brakes were too weak, I did two back-to-back threshold braking events from 100+ miles per hour and, if anything, it stopped slightly quicker the second time. And the ABS kept the tires at the limit of threshold braking all the way from 100 mph to zero, both times. In other words, the rate of deceleration is limited by the tires, not the brakes.

I also loaded the truck to it's maximum payload of 2500 lbs. with green firewood rounds and proceeded to descend 1200 vertical feet down a steep one-lane paved road that exceeded 12% grade in places and that required slowing down for hairpin turns, potholes and oncoming traffic. Even loaded to GVWR, I didn't even need to touch the friction brakes (and I rarely touch them in day-to-day driving either).

The point is, unless you are going to be tracking the truck, or driving on public roads at the limit on curvy roads, accelerating and braking to the limit repeatedly, there is zero benefit to stronger brakes with more thermal capacity. Even with a heavy trailer you will not benefit (because heavy trailers require their own brakes).

Yes, the brake pedal is heavy and doesn't have the feel of a car with 1/3 the GVWR capacity, but different calipers and or discs are not going to transform the brakes. If you want to stop fast, stand on the brake pedal and let the ABS modulate the brakes individually. The braking system is tuned to work very well, even fully loaded, even if it doesn't have the same pedal feel you are accustomed to on lighter vehicles. It's a real truck.

I'm an expert braker on motorcyles and cars that don't have ABS. On such vehicles brake pedal feel matters. With ABS, it's an entirely new ballgame, brake pedal feel really doesn't matter, just mash them in an emergency if you need maximum braking. And get used to mashing them harder than you are accustomed to in lighter cars.

 

[EightBitWhit]

Best piece of advice so far. Hands down.

Indeed - I'm looking forward to using it as it's meant to be used - as a truck. I want to keep it nice, but it's there to fulfill a larger purpose at the same time.

Welcome Brother ?,
IMO, if your using the brakes your driving it wrong on most cases. Leave extra follow distance, also sometimes I think FSD is using them also.

Good point... for me it's not so much about using the brakes all the time (and I will agree that FSD does tend to use them more than I would on my own... I've observed this on my other Tesla vehicles as well) as it is just having a good, confidence-inspiring and consistent pedal feel when i do use them and comparable stopping power as well.

Nice, FSD is worth it considering how quickly it's becoming better than a human in most common situations.

What tires do you have? A brake upgrade could benefit if you plan to race on a track, but it's a pickup! I don't know anyone who competes in trucks (although I've heard of it). The OEM brakes have more than enough power and thermal capacity to do a high speed emergency stop without being brake limited. How fast you stop is dependent upon the grip of your tires. You do have to step on the pedal harder than with many passenger cars to achieve threshold braking but it's not such an excessive force that you need athletic muscles to reach threshold braking, you just have to be willing to push hard (and modern cars with overly boosted power brakes have conditioned people to think they don't have to push much). Better brakes and discs will not improve the emergency braking at all.

After hearing people bemoan that the brakes were too weak, I did two back-to-back threshold braking events from 100+ miles per hour and, if anything, it stopped slightly quicker the second time. And the ABS kept the tires at the limit of threshold braking all the way from 100 mph to zero, both times. In other words, the rate of deceleration is limited by the tires, not the brakes.

I also loaded the truck to it's maximum payload of 2500 lbs. with green firewood rounds and proceeded to descend 1200 vertical feet down a steep one-lane paved road that exceeded 12% grade in places and that required slowing down for hairpin turns, potholes and oncoming traffic. Even loaded to GVWR, I didn't even need to touch the friction brakes (and I rarely touch them in day-to-day driving either).

The point is, unless you are going to be tracking the truck, or driving on public roads at the limit on curvy roads, accelerating and braking to the limit repeatedly, there is zero benefit to stronger brakes with more thermal capacity. Even with a heavy trailer you will not benefit (because heavy trailers require their own brakes).

Yes, the brake pedal is heavy and doesn't have the feel of a car with 1/3 the GVWR capacity, but different calipers and or discs are not going to transform the brakes. If you want to stop fast, stand on the brake pedal and let the ABS modulate the brakes individually. The braking system is tuned to work very well, even fully loaded, even if it doesn't have the same pedal feel you are accustomed to on lighter vehicles. It's a real truck.

I'm an expert braker on motorcyles and cars that don't have ABS. On such vehicles brake pedal feel matters. With ABS, it's an entirely new ballgame, brake pedal feel really doesn't matter, just mash them in an emergency if you need maximum braking. And get used to mashing them harder than you are accustomed to in lighter cars.

Great response - thank you for taking the time to write all that up, as it was a great read and I went back and re-read it twice.

I have the Core wheels and the corresponding tires.

I do not plan on tracking the truck - that's counter to my intentions with the vehicle... I plan to use it as a truck and I have other vehicles to track if I wanted to do so.

I was mainly looking for better pedal feel and more correlation to pedal force and observed braking application. You are right - the pedal feel is heavy and not exactly what I was expecting, but I'll adjust to it and let Regen do its job as designed. I'm 3 years into driving Teslas as this point so it's not an issue of not being able to judge or apply as needed... it's moreso what does that initial "bite" feel like and how does the vehicle stop using the friction brakes compared to what I normally experience in my S or my Y (both of which do excellent jobs in that regard).

The CT is just different and I'll need to adjust a bit and then determine what, if anything, I do after that.

 

[EightBitWhit]

I still like to “gun it” when my wife is looking at her phone.

The Beast is just too much fun.

congrats and welcome!

Haha - oh yeah, that right there is worth the price of admission in and of itself! The truck is impressive in that "punch it" scenario.. it's serious power on demand right there and is a neck snapper!

 

[JCERRN]

Hi everyone - registered here a few days ago and took delivery of my new '25 Beast yesterday!

Now that I'm officially part of the brotherhood, I wanted to intro myself and formally hop into the forums.

I'm brand new to the Cybertruck, but not a stranger to the Tesla ecosystem at all, as we're slowly swapping out our ICE vehicles for electric and the CT joins a Model S and a Model Y to make a stable of 3!

Here's me taking delivery:

Here's a few rando delivery shots:

Special shoutout to my good friend @misdemeanor as he has helped me along the "Cybertruck path" and was with me yesterday when I took delivery! We both tried out a few Beast Mode launches (with less than 20 miles on the odometer) and it was an absolute hoot. The truck really rips and it's hard to believe just how fast it is.

Here we are after bleeding off 15% of the battery doing launches and going less than 3 miles... LOL

Drive it like you stole it!

In all seriousness - looking forward to participating and really do appreciate all the information shared here - it's a treasure trove.

Welcome to CTOC Forums!

 

[Treynor]

We are all brothers here. . . Well, I think there are a few sisters here too! Welcome to the family.

 

[HaulingAss]

Good point... for me it's not so much about using the brakes all the time (and I will agree that FSD does tend to use them more than I would on my own... I've observed this on my other Tesla vehicles as well)

How can you tell when FSD is applying the friction brakes? I've been paying attention to this but I can't tell with any certainty whether it's all regen or if it was necessary to blend in some friction braking.

 

[EightBitWhit]

How can you tell when FSD is applying the friction brakes? I've been paying attention to this but I can't tell with any certainty whether it's all regen or if it was necessary to blend in some friction braking.

I generally feel it on more sudden stops or when the car is hauling down faster than I know regen could stop in the same distance. It's subtle, I'll admit, but over time I've been able to pick up on it based on the situation - at least in my S and Y. I guess the answer is the age old non answer of "it depends".

 

[EightBitWhit]

We are all brothers here. . . Well, I think there are a few sisters here too! Welcome to the family.

Yes - all inclusive in that regard - thank you all around!

 

[SlegMD]

I still like to “gun it” when my wife is looking at her phone.

The Beast is just too much fun.

congrats and welcome!

I’m jealous, if I do that it makes my lady cry ?

congrats OP, remember your at the speed limit once you touch that pedal!

 

[EightBitWhit]

I’m jealous, if I do that it makes my lady cry ?

congrats OP, remember your at the speed limit once you touch that pedal!

You are right - the speed comes on QUICK like, that's for sure!

I love the wrap on your truck (looking at your avatar picture)... what's the details on that?

 

[RAY INGRASSIA]

Miles of Smiles Ahead. Congrats. Enjoy. Drive Safe. Love your color selection.

 

[wdrake]

Congratulations on your new CTB and welcome to the club. This is a great forum for valuable information. Enjoy!

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