I bet Elon picks this site for the next Gigafactory

[CyberGus]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/korea-considering-proposal-69-hour-222008515.html

S. Korea considering proposal for 69-hour work week
Ana Yoo
Tue, March 14, 2023

[Source]
South Korea’s President Yoon Suk-yeol is reviewing a new proposal calling to reform the work week maximum to 69 hours.

In the proposal, which was set forth by the conservative labor ministry on Mar. 6, companies will be able to increase the maximum number of working hours in a week from the current 52 hours.
The proposal will be under public review until it is sent to the National Assembly for approval no later than July.

Since the proposal’s announcement, the government has faced intense backlash from South Korea’s Millennials and Generation Z — eponymously referred to as the “MZ generation” in Korea.

According to the president’s Press Secretary Kim Eun-hye, Yoon’s order to review the proposal comes after strong opinions have dominated conversations among the working population and the government’s liberal opposition.

Last Thursday, eight labor unions representing the MZ generation issued a joint public statement denouncing the government’s new plan, accusing the proposal of going against international efforts for a better work-life balance.

South Korea has the fourth-longest working hours among countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), with employees working an average of 1,915 hours per year — compared to the OECD average of 1,716 hours.

The country’s declining fertility rate, which is the lowest in the world, has been linked to its demanding work culture. With a suicide rate of 24.1 for every 100,000 people, South Korea also has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world, according to the OECD.

Amid criticism from the public, Prime Minister Han Duk-soo explained that the essence of the system reform is to allow employers and employees to determine working hours through mutual agreement.

"We can guarantee workers' health care by having them work hard during working hours and guaranteeing sufficient rest afterward,” said Han.

He also reiterated that the government will work hard to ensure employers’ strict adherence to the policies and would respond strongly to problems such as unpaid overtime payments, overdue wages and failure to guarantee health rights.

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[JBee]

More likely to need a predominant Abrahamic traditional religious state, with families with more children for a higher fertility rate with younger more agile workers and thinkers. There are other Asian countries further south that also have resources too.

 

[Coolbreeze704]

More likely to need a predominant Abrahamic traditional religious state, with families with more children for a higher fertility rate with younger more agile workers and thinkers. There are other Asian countries further south that also have resources too.

May seem out there but Vietnam is a fast growing stable economy that is mineral rich.

Vietnam's key mineral endowment includes: coal, bauxite, rare earth, tungsten, titanium, phosphate rocks and iron ore. Coal remains one of the primary energy sources for the domestic market.

Young and growing work force
Since Vietnam has large number of populations by most young generation is in labor force, the population growth rate is estimated to be the highest growth among ASEAN countries in the next 5-6 years and it makes the domestic market a high potential for highly growing.

 

[TyPope]

No. I think Tesla will next break ground on... GigaTexas West Entrance... It's been a couple of days since the last change in configuration...

 

[Sirfun]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/korea-considering-proposal-69-hour-222008515.html

S. Korea considering proposal for 69-hour work week
Ana Yoo
Tue, March 14, 2023

[Source]
South Korea’s President Yoon Suk-yeol is reviewing a new proposal calling to reform the work week maximum to 69 hours.

In the proposal, which was set forth by the conservative labor ministry on Mar. 6, companies will be able to increase the maximum number of working hours in a week from the current 52 hours.
The proposal will be under public review until it is sent to the National Assembly for approval no later than July.

Since the proposal’s announcement, the government has faced intense backlash from South Korea’s Millennials and Generation Z — eponymously referred to as the “MZ generation” in Korea.

According to the president’s Press Secretary Kim Eun-hye, Yoon’s order to review the proposal comes after strong opinions have dominated conversations among the working population and the government’s liberal opposition.

Last Thursday, eight labor unions representing the MZ generation issued a joint public statement denouncing the government’s new plan, accusing the proposal of going against international efforts for a better work-life balance.

South Korea has the fourth-longest working hours among countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), with employees working an average of 1,915 hours per year — compared to the OECD average of 1,716 hours.

The country’s declining fertility rate, which is the lowest in the world, has been linked to its demanding work culture. With a suicide rate of 24.1 for every 100,000 people, South Korea also has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world, according to the OECD.

Amid criticism from the public, Prime Minister Han Duk-soo explained that the essence of the system reform is to allow employers and employees to determine working hours through mutual agreement.

"We can guarantee workers' health care by having them work hard during working hours and guaranteeing sufficient rest afterward,” said Han.

He also reiterated that the government will work hard to ensure employers’ strict adherence to the policies and would respond strongly to problems such as unpaid overtime payments, overdue wages and failure to guarantee health rights.

69 seems like an odd amount of hours per week. I did the math, and it works out to 6 days a week at 11.5 hours per day.

My dad told me years ago. There are 24 hours in a day, 8 hours you work. 8 hours you sleep. What you do with those other 8 hours, determines your life. My dad was a workaholic, and work meant everything to him. It made him very successful with the company he worked for. He ran construction jobs for them over 30 years. For me, I tried that for 1 year and couldn't stand it. I hated having to laying off people, and I didn't like taking responsibility for other people doing a lousy job. I always enjoyed doing a good job and taking pride in my own work. But also I really enjoyed getting off from work and go playing in the ocean. I was very successful at that and was sponsored by several companies over the years. Then after my 3 children were born, they were a high priority. Especially my middle child who is severely handicapped. In her first 4 years of life she was probably hospitalized 10-15 times. She is now 23 and doing pretty darn well.

Anyway, my point is that if the government expects people to work 11.5 hours a day, 6 days a week. That government is not allowing people to decide their own fate.

 

[CyberGus]

69 seems like an odd amount of hours per week. I did the math, and it works out to 6 days a week at 11.5 hours per day.

My dad told me years ago. There are 24 hours in a day, 8 hours you work. 8 hours you sleep. What you do with those other 8 hours, determines your life. My dad was a workaholic, and work meant everything to him. It made him very successful with the company he worked for. He ran construction jobs for them over 30 years. For me, I tried that for 1 year and couldn't stand it. I hated having to laying off people, and I didn't like taking responsibility for other people doing a lousy job. I always enjoyed doing a good job and taking pride in my own work. But also I really enjoyed getting off from work and go playing in the ocean. I was very successful at that and was sponsored by several companies over the years. Then after my 3 children were born, they were a high priority. Especially my middle child who is severely handicapped. In her first 4 years of life she was probably hospitalized 10-15 times. She is now 23 and doing pretty darn well.

Anyway, my point is that if the government expects people to work 11.5 hours a day, 6 days a week. That government is not allowing people to decide their own fate.

Yeah 69 is an odd choice, which is why I'm sure Elon would love it.

I agree that I've no desire to work that many hours, but they're talking about increasing the maximum allowed from 52. In the US, there's no such thing as "maximum" hours. For most of my professional life, 52 hours in a week would be slacking off.

 

[Crissa]

For most of my professional life, 52 hours in a week would be slacking off.

They're lying, usually.

The problem is that people who don't have jobs laboring tends to choose the hours those who labor do.

There is no equal negotiation between a CEO and a worker. They will always ask for more hours.

-Crissa

 

[FutureBoy]

Every time I see the title of this thread I start to wonder how the Cybertruck Owners Club is going to host a Gigafactory...

Now if we really wanted to see what happens in one, that would probably be the way to do it. Perhaps a metaverse Gigafactory.

 

[JBee]

They're lying, usually.

The problem is that people who don't have jobs laboring tends to choose the hours those who labor do.

There is no equal negotiation between a CEO and a worker. They will always ask for more hours.

-Crissa

Go be a better CEO then Crissa!
You can do it, we believe in you!

(Honestly, time to be an architect of change instead of a commentator of the victims of it)

But a good CEO would also ask you to leave, if you aren't productive and in alignment with the "co-operation" of company goals.

Just imagine, just for a minute, what things would not exist if all bosses listened to all the naysayers and whiners. We'd be lucky if we still found shelter under a rock.

Actually DO the good things you believe in, and don't let your life be consumed by the things you don't think are good, and let that stop you.

 

[jerhenderson]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/korea-considering-proposal-69-hour-222008515.html

S. Korea considering proposal for 69-hour work week
Ana Yoo
Tue, March 14, 2023

[Source]
South Korea’s President Yoon Suk-yeol is reviewing a new proposal calling to reform the work week maximum to 69 hours.

In the proposal, which was set forth by the conservative labor ministry on Mar. 6, companies will be able to increase the maximum number of working hours in a week from the current 52 hours.
The proposal will be under public review until it is sent to the National Assembly for approval no later than July.

Since the proposal’s announcement, the government has faced intense backlash from South Korea’s Millennials and Generation Z — eponymously referred to as the “MZ generation” in Korea.

According to the president’s Press Secretary Kim Eun-hye, Yoon’s order to review the proposal comes after strong opinions have dominated conversations among the working population and the government’s liberal opposition.

Last Thursday, eight labor unions representing the MZ generation issued a joint public statement denouncing the government’s new plan, accusing the proposal of going against international efforts for a better work-life balance.

South Korea has the fourth-longest working hours among countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), with employees working an average of 1,915 hours per year — compared to the OECD average of 1,716 hours.

The country’s declining fertility rate, which is the lowest in the world, has been linked to its demanding work culture. With a suicide rate of 24.1 for every 100,000 people, South Korea also has one of the highest rates of suicide in the world, according to the OECD.

Amid criticism from the public, Prime Minister Han Duk-soo explained that the essence of the system reform is to allow employers and employees to determine working hours through mutual agreement.

"We can guarantee workers' health care by having them work hard during working hours and guaranteeing sufficient rest afterward,” said Han.

He also reiterated that the government will work hard to ensure employers’ strict adherence to the policies and would respond strongly to problems such as unpaid overtime payments, overdue wages and failure to guarantee health rights.

Olympus Mons ?

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