I had A pretty close call on FSD yesterday!

[Crissa]

Nobody agrees with me and thinks that the way they were stacked is very unlikely to have fallen naturally that way? while obeying the laws of physics from a moving vehicle. i can understand it if it was not moving and they were stacked up a little bit skewed to the left and for some unknown reason fell straight down then they slide off to the left and the vehicle starts moving after they fall off. but where they lie is past the line already and that can only happen if the vehicle is already moving. and i strongly believe that they would never fall and stay lined up in the one direction where we should see the most diversion there is basically none. But we don't have to argue the details if there is evidence in video. I just need to know how to find and access it?

Naw, I've bounced stacks of pallets and they usually fall that way. Every object in a stack has its own momentum and hence, bounce.

-Crissa

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[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Naw, I've bounced stacks of pallets and they usually fall that way. Every object in a stack has its own momentum and hence, bounce.

I agree with you that they may have. And they will gain their own momentum once off the truck, but you cannot magically cancel out the forward momentum that they must have had if you are saying they fell out of a moving vehicle.
And I'm not saying that its imposible to land that way including the almost zero movement in the direction of travel. I'm just saying that its highly unlikely. this being my main reason for making my statement that it is "possible they were intentionally placed there" But not the only reason. Some of the other reasons are where on the road they fell which means that if they fell from a vehicle, it could only have been from this one lane and it had to of been moving at that point in the road. because the truck would have had to of been well past the line into the intersection blocking cross traffic in order to stop and drop them from a stationary truck. The type of pallets that they were is also out of the ordinary, they looked expensive and must have been on an expensive truck. they usually secure their cargo better than most. another clue is the railroad above head. that very spot on the tracks is sometimes occupied by homeless people that gather shit they find and maybe they just needed a little excitement. The fact that they lined up with the line on the ground and neatly covered the whole lane. all of this is what's telling me that it's a possible act of attempted vandalism.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Look weather or not it was intentional don't matter to me anymore. My concerns here are now focused on the failed documentation of an incident that happened while driving in FSD and the implications it brings to light had I not been able to save us (mother and I) from a really bad end to the day and not having anything to show what happened. If I can't even convince you fools that its true imagine telling the insurance people and not one bit of video. Shit I would never believe that from a cybertruck owner "Bs how do you not have evidence". if your truck has like 50 cameras (hint embellishment it has 12). And now I'm told that it's my fault nothing was recorded. Every day I feel more and more like it's my fault I bought this truck. But I still like it because I'm stubborn but All I want is improvements. not fails.

 

[Crissa]

The forward momentum doesn't need to be canceled after it leaves the truck. We don't know how much momentum - if any - it had other than 'to the left'.

If it bounced off the truck backwards at 15mph and the truck was going 15mph, well, the forward momentum was canceled. It's all on the initial bounce.

-Crissa

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Let's say it took a Miricale bounce to land that way. what about all the other factors you can't ignore them and still say that it's not possible that it was intentionally placed there because that can even happen from a moving truck, and they don't need to be pushed off the driver can make them fall exactly where he wants without even getting out. Wish I had some footage

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

The forward momentum doesn't need to be canceled after it leaves the truck. We don't know how much momentum - if any - it had other than 'to the left'.

If it bounced off the truck backwards at 15mph and the truck was going 15mph, well, the forward momentum was canceled. It's all on the initial bounce.

-Crissa

Thank you. Did you think about what you said? because your right! it would need to be pushed off the truck at 15mph in order to cancel the truck and pallets 15mph forward momentum. and that possibility just doesn't exist! Tell me, what can do that? throw all three pallets together backward opposite to the travel direction at 15mph.

 

[Crissa]

Thank you. Did you think about what you said? because your right! it would need to be pushed off the truck at 15mph in order to cancel the truck and pallets 15mph forward momentum. and that possibility just doesn't exist! Tell me, what can do that? throw all three pallets together backward opposite to the travel direction at 15mph.

...And you think it wasn't bounced off a truck?

There's a train track there. Someone probably hit it hard and the forward motion was translated by suspension into another direction.

Also, stuff sliding off of a truck might've slowed down as it left from friction. It only needed enough force to leave.

And say, it was on the end of your Cybertruck, and you stopped, then launched, but the back end bounced (which for other trucks is super-likely) while the load still had less inertia, the load would just remain there and then fall to the street.

This isn't amazing or even unlikely.

-Crissa

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

to Crissa,

you know what, you got a good point there with the bounce theory.
So maybe they were not intentionally dropped there. It doesn't even matter if it was or not, I was able to avoid hitting and running over them. But what I would like to discuss bit more about is how I captured no video of the incident. no nothing from any of the safety systems onboard. to the truck its like it never happened. I need to understand why this did not raise any red flags sort of speak. what did I do wrong. what can i do to make sure I have video evidence when something does happen in the future. and maybe someone can answer some of the other questions I made that are not about this being an intentional act. forget about that. why did FSD not issue a what happen report? why did slamming on the brakes during FSD not automatically record and save. this should be something that is not switched on or off that needs to be done regardless of any customization available to the user. can we answer a few of these questions.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Train tracks are above head Crissa, you can't run over them. but let's forget about that part of the argument and focus on what we can learn about concerning CB FSD from this incident. and proper settings to make sure that when something like this happens to you, you will have the evidence to show and analyze on a forum.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

That's what I thought? no one wants to address the real elephant in the room.
FSD on the brink of crashing and for certain because had I not reacted quickly with the correct choice. results would have been heavy damage to my CB for sure but possibly to other cars near me and even to me and my passenger. yet the incident was not even registered by the safety systems that is the real problem here!

 

[Crissa]

My first post said FSD is less careful about boxes than perhaps it should.

Who isn't facing 'the elephant in the room'? FSD Supervised sometimes makes mistakes. That's the point, to find and correct these situations.

-Crissa

 

[PeterOT]

To my knowledge the dashcam feature does not capture FSD disengagements. At least on my vehicles it never has. It will only record sentry events, if you have that turned on, and footage of your choice by pressing the dashcam icon on the screen or horn if you have it set up that way. It will record approximately 10 seconds prior to your activation of it and 25 seconds afterwards.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

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PeterOT

To my knowledge the dashcam feature does not capture FSD disengagements. At least on my vehicles it never has. It will only record sentry events, if you have that turned on, and footage of your choice by pressing the dashcam icon on the screen or horn if you have it set up that way. It will record approximately 10 seconds prior to your activation of it and 25 seconds afterwards.

This was no ordinary disengagement this was a sudden deceleration event screeching tires from FSD at speed limit to 0 in 1 or 2 seconds.
this time frame of 35 seconds is nowhere near enough time if anything serious happens. they expect us to remember to push the button after what normally should be never needing it before then suddenly, you're in a crash and possibly your hurt, dazed, or even unconscious, and you got a rush of adrenaline there is so many things going through your head. was it my fault or their fault is anyone else hurt, do I need to call 911, I need to get out before this thing catches fire, what if I'm stuck in here and can't escape the blaze. oh, wait before I do anything let me push the little button it's already been like 9 seconds since the crash at least ill have 1 second before the crash to prove it wasn't my fault...oh no i can't remember which button to push. Opps there goes my 10 seconds now I'm screwed.

 

[ARMANDO PADILLA]

Let me get this straight if you are in an incident where you are incapacitated and unable to push the button, you won't have any evidence to prove that the guy took a red light. and since you were unable to give the police a statement the only statement on the report is the other driver and he is saying you took the red light. are there no other recordings that can be accessed by tesla or authorities? if this is true Than I see this as a major problem that needs to be corrected!

 

[REM]

To Rem. who the hell do you think you are? I'll tell you, your one of those ass kissers who resort to insults and mockery making snap judgments and putting labels on someone when they don't like what is being said even if it's true. living in denial my truck cost me $122,000 not $80,000 and I paid cash if those are the metrics you use to judge a person, I'm just wasting my time with your childish whining. All you try and do is shift focus from the important issues to stupid things like I misspelled a word or the way i wrote something.

Hard to take you seriously when you were just posting in another thread that you didn't even know how to lock your vehicle from the MCU ?

So... Post the video of your sensational near crash or I'm going to continue to assume you are embellishing.

And after reading more of your posts, it's very clear to me that you don't understand enough about FSD to safely operate it. You should probably not use it again.

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