Less control on FSD v14

[REM]

I am using sloth mode. It says 30mph on my screen in my 15/25mph neighborhood, and goes 30mph+.

Also, you can try a new driver profile and see if you get different results.

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[seussiii]

I don't know what to think of these profiles. Sometimes it'll sit in the fast lane on standard going exactly 55 in a 55, yet another day on the same stretch it will go 60. Yesterday it sat at 50 in the fast lane and wouldn't budge.

In either case it will usually sit in the fast lane regardless of upcoming traffic. Chill will drop speed sharply about 5 mph before moving over. Which is not fun if someone is riding your ass.

It didn't actually change speeds at all between standard and hurry on one stretch until I went to mad max.

Parking has to be the worst part though for me. Half joking, but it has gotten considerably quicker at parking badly at least.

 

[SCTesla]

If offset does nothing with the new FSD categories, why is it an active choice if the profile is set to FSD? Shouldn’t it be ghosted? If my profile is set to FSD, there is no TACC option (in the old days you could do one push for TACC or two pushes for autopilot).

That offset is for your speed limit warning. Lane assist is also in that menu and it's irrelevant when FSD is active. Tesla stated there is no user controls on Speed Limit outside of the profiles and that's pretty easily tested. The offset doesn't work on FSD.

 

[SCTesla]

I do not think manual speed will return. Sure there's a chance, but I think it's low.

V14 does a better job reading and picking up SLs, Tesla updates their maps from fleet data and by using mapping services. Tesla can get better at this, obviously, but I think some time with V14 repopulating correct Speed Limits will help all of us. My neighborhood is already fixed. V13 and V14 (originally) had the speed at 30 and it's 20, but now it's 20 around the entire neighborhood.

 

[TyPope]

I have too many roads where the truck says speed is much higher than it actually is. Out of my driveway the speed is 25 and the truck posts 60. I guess I’ll wait on this update. I wish sloth were 10 below, chill was set speed, etc. and those speeds could at least be set in settings.

Have you looked to see what google maps says the speed limit is for that stretch of the road? If it is wrong, you can put in a request to correct it. If there isn't a sign by your driveway, your Tesla has to use underlying map data for speed.

 

[georgek43]

I do not think manual speed will return. Sure there's a chance, but I think it's low.

V14 does a better job reading and picking up SLs, Tesla updates their maps from fleet data and by using mapping services. Tesla can get better at this, obviously, but I think some time with V14 repopulating correct Speed Limits will help all of us. My neighborhood is already fixed. V13 and V14 (originally) had the speed at 30 and it's 20, but now it's 20 around the entire neighborhood.

If they can get the speed limits corrected, that’s a good start but it still is not as good or as safe as manual control of maximum speed. But there are literally billions of posted speed limits in America. For my past use of FSD, which has been near 100%, adjusting maximum speed has been my main interaction while driving for a year. Speed limits change frequently, so unless the car is reading, processing and following the posted signs, it’s not good enough. And there are hundreds of scenarios (from bumpy roads to weather to bicycle groups to golf carts sharing the roads to many others) that I could safely use FSD as long as I could slow down the vehicle, and increase my awareness to shut it off if it looked sketchy. Taking that little optional feature away makes FSD unsafe and effectively unusable.

 

[SCTesla]

If they can get the speed limits corrected, that’s a good start but it still is not as good or as safe as manual control of maximum speed. But there are literally billions of posted speed limits in America. For my past use of FSD, which has been near 100%, adjusting maximum speed has been my main interaction while driving for a year. Speed limits change frequently, so unless the car is reading, processing and following the posted signs, it’s not good enough. And there are hundreds of scenarios (from bumpy roads to weather to bicycle groups to golf carts sharing the roads to many others) that I could safely use FSD as long as I could slow down the vehicle, and increase my awareness to shut it off if it looked sketchy. Taking that little optional feature away makes FSD unsafe and effectively unusable.

Then don't use it.

I posted when I got V14 that there would be some here who would freak out, but since V10 of FSD they have continuously removed options and control and as Elon has said, they will continue to do so.

 

[georgek43]

Have you looked to see what google maps says the speed limit is for that stretch of the road? If it is wrong, you can put in a request to correct it. If there isn't a sign by your driveway, your Tesla has to use underlying map data for speed.

Google maps frequently shows a speed limit in my phone that’s different than the speed on my Tesla display. Sometimes it’s just a lag, but not usually. More importantly, I don’t think the system reads speed signs, no matter what they say. If it does, it does not utilize them to adjust speed. My CT will blow right by a clearly posted 25mph sign, still show 45 on the display, and still drive over 45 until I shut off FSD. In my neighborhood it regularly passes by clear 15mph signs but insists on going 30+. With the right scroll wheel for max speed I could just roll it down to drive safely and legally. Not with FSD14.

Please tell me how to put in a request to correct speed limit errors.

 

[SCTesla]

Google maps frequently shows a speed limit in my phone that’s different than the speed on my Tesla display. Sometimes it’s just a lag, but not usually. More importantly, I don’t think the system reads speed signs, no matter what they say. If it does, it does not utilize them to adjust speed. My CT will blow right by a clearly posted 25mph sign, still show 45 on the display, and still drive over 45 until I shut off FSD. In my neighborhood it regularly passes by clear 15mph signs but insists on going 30+. With the right scroll wheel for max speed I could just roll it down to drive safely and legally. Not with FSD14.

Please tell me how to put in a request to correct speed limit errors.

Tesla does read speed and that's how it corrects errors in mapping data.

In V13 it was bad and there is still a lot of poor data, but V14 seems to be much improved in that field. Tesla sources OpenMaps and Google for speed limits, but relies mostly on fleet published signs, detours, hazards, etc. via the cameras.

Edit: Tesla prioritizes in car data over fleet data and fleet data over third-party. So if multiple cars think a highway speed limit is 45, that overrides Google/other sources saying it's 70, but if your car sees 55, it will use that short term. Disengaging and re-engaging will clear the local priority for the fleet/third-party.

 

[Beetlebug62]

Some of these errors are wonky! Mine is driving perfectly, except it still likes to touch the yellow line on the interstate when I'm in the left, otherwise, perfect.

If mine did half the things others are reporting, I'd do a hard reset.

 

[TyPope]

Google maps frequently shows a speed limit in my phone that’s different than the speed on my Tesla display. Sometimes it’s just a lag, but not usually. More importantly, I don’t think the system reads speed signs, no matter what they say. If it does, it does not utilize them to adjust speed. My CT will blow right by a clearly posted 25mph sign, still show 45 on the display, and still drive over 45 until I shut off FSD. In my neighborhood it regularly passes by clear 15mph signs but insists on going 30+. With the right scroll wheel for max speed I could just roll it down to drive safely and legally. Not with FSD14.

Please tell me how to put in a request to correct speed limit errors.

Log in to Google Maps. Right click on the road. Click "Report a Data Problem". If you can, have a picture of the speed limit sign as evidence.

 

[jeniferkey]

Log in to Google Maps. Right click on the road. Click "Report a Data Problem". If you can, have a picture of the speed limit sign as evidence.

I’ve done this at numerous locations and it didn’t change how the truck reacted. My local road has been fine for years and only with the last 2 quick updates has started acting up (and my road is so small it has no speed limit signs). I went through the removal of radar in my Model 3 which made FSD unusable for almost a year. I expect these issues, but it’s disappointing to be the guinea pig.

 

[TyPope]

I’ve done this at numerous locations and it didn’t change how the truck reacted. My local road has been fine for years and only with the last 2 quick updates has started acting up (and my road is so small it has no speed limit signs). I went through the removal of radar in my Model 3 which made FSD unusable for almost a year. I expect these issues, but it’s disappointing to be the guinea pig.

Yeah. Sorry to hear that. If FSD is truly a learning thing, it'll get better even if you aren't in FSD as long as you have enabled data sharing. I was going to Dominos last night and was showing my daughter that FSD can drive from my spot at home to their parking lot. Dominos shares a parking lot with many others as it's in what we'd call a strip mall. There's a bank along one side near the entrance. FSD entered the parking lot and immediately turned right to go through the bank drive through. I'm like "The pizza's paid for already!"

I'll keep giving it a go. Like you said, it sucks being a guinea pig but if nobody does it...

 

[Cybertruck2024]

The crazy thing is the old version of FSD would consistently go under my speed I had set. On a 65mph road, I would usually set at 70-72, and the truck would do 63. I would have to keep manually pushing the pedal and getting the "FSD will not brake" message to get the truck to do my speed.

This used to drive me nuts, but at least going under the wanted speed gave me a manual option to change the speed upward. In FSD 14 they just did the opposite of 13. Now it goes faster than I want, 10+ over is the minimum the truck liked to drive, and there is no manual intervention other than turning it off.

I like driving fast as much as anyone else, but the CT sticks out and a lot of people don't like it. On roads I know are heavily patrolled, it isn't worth the risk to be flying by a cop 15mph over the speed limit, you're just asking for an issue.

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