Map setting: Satellite Imagery

[JBee]

Range is not as good on the higher frequencies. That's important in dense urban areas like NYC where the pop/sqmi is huge. But that's only in dense urban areas. Outside the dense urban areas, you will NEVER find the higher frequencies deployed.
So for 99.9% of the US and probably 99.99% of the land mass of AU, you will not see the higher frequencies deployed, it just won't work. It doesn't even work in surburban areas.

Your last point shows that you just aren't getting it. There are no such thing as 4G frequencies. Just like there is no such thing as 3G frequencies and no such thing as 5G frequencies.

Sure, you may hear a carrier talk about deploying a system on one set of frequencies, but that's only because they don't mix that well and they deploy on one, but then backfill on the others are handsets move to the new allocations.

Here's another article 5G bands cheat sheet: Verizon vs AT&T vs Sprint vs T-Mobile vs World - PhoneArena
Look at all the 5G on the low and middle bands.

I'm glad you have confirmed step by step the posts I made previously so we are on the same page now.

When I say "5G frequencies" it should be clear that they are the frequencies that a "5G" system uses. 5G has a much larger scope of frequencies and also at higher frequencies than 4G.

So turning 5G off means not only that a better frequency range isbeing forced to be used for my area, being the lower frequency 4G ones, but also that the mobile is not constantly searching for other 5G frequency cells, meaning less battery is used overall.

In fact at home, workshop and office I actually get the phone to switch off mobile cellular completely and use phone over wifi with Starlink instead. Works treat on the farm Ubiquity mesh network which has a few square miles of coverage with various nodes around the 1700acres.

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[Woodrick]

I'm glad you have confirmed step by step the posts I made previously so we are on the same page now.

When I say "5G frequencies" it should be clear that they are the frequencies that a "5G" system uses. 5G has a much larger scope of frequencies and also at higher frequencies than 4G.

So turning 5G off means not only that a better frequency range isbeing forced to be used for my area, being the lower frequency 4G ones, but also that the mobile is not constantly searching for other 5G frequency cells, meaning less battery is used overall.

In fact at home, workshop and office I actually get the phone to switch off mobile cellular completely and use phone over wifi with Starlink instead. Works treat on the farm Ubiquity mesh network which has a few square miles of coverage with various nodes around the 1700acres.

Still no. Your phone (or which very few support the mmWave frequencies) won't be constantly wasting power talking on the mmWave. Even if it is searching for it, if it doesn't hear anything, it doesn't transmit.

 

[JBee]

Still no. Your phone (or which very few support the mmWave frequencies) won't be constantly wasting power talking on the mmWave. Even if it is searching for it, if it doesn't hear anything, it doesn't transmit.

So recievers use no power, and dropping in and out of range doesn’t use power, and different frequencies use power all the same. Righto whatev bud.

 

[Woodrick]

So recievers use no power, and dropping in and out of range doesn’t use power, and different frequencies use power all the same. Righto whatev bud.

I never said ANY of that.

You just said some very different things.

Your receiver is on most of the time, period.

Dropping in and out of range results in some of the worst battery usage because as your phone starts to hear a site, it will crank the power up to try to talk to it.

But let's go back to your initial position

Otherwise it's pretty pointless. I've had 4GX for +6 years now, on multiple devices, and thats 1gbps and really live out in the sticks, but still have reception nearly everywhere I go. Don't need faster on my mobile even with a few devices tethered and streaming 4k. Mind you in the USA our reception wasn't always crash hot, and we were on googlefi which apparently switches between networks.

5G is super short range and high power. If you want your battery to last longer turn it off under network settings. Thats what I do.

Being out in the sticks means that you will probably have increased battery drain because you probably have a weak signal on ANY band using 3G, 4G, or 5G.

5G is NOT super short range. On the low bands, it's basically the same.
5G works on any of the bands that a carrier has decided to implement it. Different carriers different solutions.

In the sticks, your phone will probably never here a mmWave signal and thus never transmit on them.

 

[kobratoldya]

Any fix to this yet? I’m having the same issue. Never had this problem in any other tesla. It won’t stay on satellite view.

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