Update VOTE: Should we do a “Cybertruck Lightbar "Wave"?”

[Bill906]

It'll probably remain, like the telephone icon or the save icon. Obsolete skeuomorphic iconography.

-Crissa

I had a young coworker ask why the save button was the Honda symbol.

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[Bill906]

At that point, won't both sides of the truck effectively be passenger sides? Are people going to have to learn to use Port vs Starboard instead of Driver vs Passenger? Or will we just get demoted to boring old Left vs Right?

I was going to say the right side, but decided to say passenger side to be more global and not alienate our right hand drive friends.

 

[Crissa]

I had a young coworker ask why the save button was the Honda symbol.

Was the save icon ever anything else in their lives, tho?

-Crissa

 

[FutureBoy]

I had a young coworker ask why the save button was the Honda symbol.

Good question. With all the Honda-bumps, there isn't anything safe about a Honda.

 

[Bill906]

Was the save icon ever anything else in their lives, tho?

-Crissa

My first instinct was to laugh at her for being dumb. ?
But then I got really sad because I realized she’s not dumb… I‘m OLD. ?

 

[Ryan95738]

Instead of a CT to CT wave, I need a coded pedestrian wave to flag a CT down to give me a ride. CT owners are required to stop, give a lift and answer ALL questions.

This!!!

 

[Coolbreeze704]

3 threads on " what is our Jeep wave"?

What in the world

 

[Ogre]

I will never respond to your Cyberwave. I will be too busy posting on this forum, texting, sexting, watching wham bam teslacam to pay attention to randos driving by.

I think he’s talking about how FSD in your truck will Acknowledge FSD in his truck. Sort of like how Cylons say “By Your Command”. Well maybe not quite that.

 

[Rutrow]

Hate to toss a turd in y'all's punch bowl, but forward facing white lights, higher than 54" above the ground are illegal* to illuminate on public roads.

*in every state's motor vehicle regulations that I've researched (I've researched a lot in fire department research papers).

That's why I'm afraid the light bar won't make it to production. There are a few states that require off road light bars lenses be covered on public highways, just to ensure they aren't flashed on periodically, like as to "wave" to other vehicles when there are no police officers around. A behind the windshield light bar would therefore be illegal in some states, unless there was some external cover that could be placed over it.

Sorry

 

[JBee]

So you could fix the issue with a cover on the inside as well? I'm thinking a simple lever next to the sun visor that flips up a cover in front of the light bar should be good enough.

 

[SpaceYooper]

Hard pass. If it becomes a thing, I'll be the dick not paying attention.

 

[FutureBoy]

Hate to toss a turd in y'all's punch bowl, but forward facing white lights, higher than 54" above the ground are illegal* to illuminate on public roads.

So if the CT is lowered to sports car handling suspension, is the light bar below your limit?

 

[Rutrow]

So you could fix the issue with a cover on the inside as well? I'm thinking a simple lever next to the sun visor that flips up a cover in front of the light bar should be good enough.

In a non-exhaustive search of the laws from a few states that require "opaque covers" for auxiliary lights I couldn't find any that require the cover to be on the "exterior" of the vehicle. There are Codes of Federal Regulations that include "lens" in the definition of lighting assemblies, but aren't clear whether the glass in front of a light would be considered its "lens"??? I would think it would require a court to decide whether an interior, quickly and easily accessible cover would comply with the letter of the law, but my guess is that the spirit of these "opaque cover" for off roading lights is to prevent them from being used on public roadways to "wave", "bright back" someone who hasn't dimmed their headlights, startle or dazzle other motorists, or perhaps impersonate an officer's "take down" lights on a patrol car.

If they can be easily uncovered and recovered from inside the vehicle while in motion, laws requiring them to be covered is no more restrictive than those states that just mandate that they not be turned on when on public roads. But, I'm open to evidence that my interpretation is flawed. I don't relish being the bearer of bad news

 

[Rutrow]

So if the CT is lowered to sports car handling suspension, is the light bar below your limit?

The 54" high limit for driving lights was mentioned because it is the highest allowed I could find. There are other states where that maximum height is much lower. In Arkansas the limit is 45" and I remember one state where it was as low as 42". Regardless, I think that at 54" the CyberTruck would probably be scraping the battery compartment to get the lights that low.

Another wrinkle is that many states limit the number of forward facing white lights to four. This was a reasonable regulation back in the days of sealed beam headlights, when each bulb had only one light element, but with newer LED headlights and Matrix lighting systems, those laws may need updating. Practically every new light assembly is made up of multiple lighting elements, often even with multiple lenses inside each light. Daytime running lamps and aesthetic continuous light bars across the front of new cars may run afoul of the letter of those laws. I remember the Ford Taurus had a light bar between the headlights when it first came out, then was discontinued. Talk at the time was that it was because it violated lighting laws, but I'm not sure if that's true, or apocryphal.

If anyone would like to peruse the various state laws, I found a good site that explains a lot of the repercussions and links to applicable laws in each state. The page doesn't have a dateline so I don't know how out of date the information may be.
https://rigforge.com/do-off-road-lights-need-to-be-covered-the-law-explained/

 

[Zapharus]

As a current jeep owner... please no. No wave.

Agreed! It’s cringey af. ?

Don’t be cringey y’all!!

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