Confirmed Cybertruck specs: 5% smaller, 6x4 bed size, 5 seats, frunk, no pass through & more... (info from Tesla employee at Investor Day)

[firsttruck]

The CT will be mostly a US delivered truck. I haven't even heard of Tesla planning to ship/sell anywhere else.

Years before announcement of Mexico Gigafactory the people of Mexico have had the ability to make reservation for Cybertruck. As far as I know there are also many Cybertruck reservations from people in Australia.

I have 5 friend in Mexico that have Cybertruck reservations.

Tesla Mexico Cybertruck order page is still working
https://www.tesla.com/es_mx/cybertruck

We can buy and do buy tons of full-size pickup trucks including the larger super duty series
Ford F-150, F-250, F-350, F-450, F-550.
https://www.ford.mx
GMC/Chevrolet Sierra/Silverado 1500, 3500HD
https://www.chevrolet.com.mx/
RAM 2500HD, RAM 4000
https://www.ram.com/mx/

In fact some full-size pickup trucks are made in Mexico and so are many of the huge class-8 trucks (semi trucks).

Class-8 truck makers and parts manufacturers with assembly plants and factories in Mexico include Freightliner, Kenworth, Navistar, Hino, International, DINA, MAN SE, Mercedes-Benz, Isuzu, Scania, Cummins, and Detroit Diesel, according to Anpact.

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Stellantis North America - Saltillo Truck Assembly Plant
Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico
Products: Ram 1500 Classic (Regular Cab); Ram 2500, 3500, 4500 and 5500 Heavy Duty
https://media.stellantisnorthamerica.com/newsrelease.do?id=319

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1 Full-Size ‘American’ Pickup Truck Is Actually Made in Mexico
by Henry Cesari
February 27, 2022
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/1-full-size-american-pickup-truck-is-actually-made-in-mexico/
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General Motors assembles all regular cab 2022 Sierra/Silverado 1500s and some crew cab models at its factory in Silao, Mexico.
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While some Toyota Tacomas are built in Texas, others are assembled in Mexico.

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Navistar produces first 100% electric truck in Mexico
The production center of heavy-duty vehicle assembler Navistar, better known as the Escobedo Plant, in the state of Nuevo Leon announced the production of its eMV vehicle on Mexican soil.
1 September, 2022
https://mexico-now.com/navistar-produces-first-100-electric-truck-in-mexico/

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Daimler Freightliner Trucks celebrates half a million units produced in Mexico
9 April, 2021
https://mexico-now.com/daimler-trucks-celebrates-half-a-million-units-produced-in-mexico/

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Cummins moves its operations to Mexico
Cummins, a US supplier to the automotive industry, announced the start-up of the manufacture of new engines at its San Luis Potosí plant to supply the world.
Cummins Engines has Mid-Range, Heavy-Duty, and High-Power Engines. Its markets include heavy-and medium-duty trucks, buses, recreational vehicles (RV), light-duty automotive, and several industrial uses including construction, mining, marine, oil and gas, railroad, and military equipment.
24 March, 2022
https://mexico-now.com/cummins-moves-its-operations-to-mexico/

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[firsttruck]

I don't know about other countries but in most U.S. States a ball-hitch type trailer is not an option for a 6th seat or any seat. In most U.S. states, NObody is allowed in ball-hitch type trailer when trailer is traveling ( in motion) on public roads. Some U.S. States do allow passengers in 5th wheel trailers but many U.S. States do not.

 

[Deleted member 3316]

Not according to what I've been able to find, if we take 2019 as reference so that results are not affected by supply chain related issues that could distort the data, you'll see that ~4M pick up trucks were sold worldwide. In that same year in the US alone ~2.5M full size pick up trucks were sold, and that's without Canada.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/mmo/passenger-cars/pickup-trucks/worldwide#unit-sales

https://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-analysis-2020-large-pickup/

Not to mention there are only three large markets where you can realistically sell Cybertruck at volume due to income and infrastructure limitations:

1) US+Canada
2) EU + AUS/NZ
3) China

That skews the picture even further in favor of full size trucks as a good chunk of small and mid size trucks are sold in South America and Asia.

Tesla is very good a making markets though…

 

[Deleted member 3316]

Elon says truck may be 5% smaller..

Then he retracts and says it has shrunk a bit, but not that much.

Now its 5%

Yep... advice within Tesla has swayed towards worldwide best size.



Although, can't put it past him... Maybe he saw an opportunity to confuse his competitors.

I really don’t think Tesla look in the rear view that often… and realistically anything behind them is so far behind it’s pointless to look.

 

[Crissa]

I don't know about other countries but in most U.S. States a ball-hitch type trailer is not an option for a 6th seat or any seat. In most U.S. states, NObody is allowed in ball-hitch type trailer when trailer is traveling ( in motion) on public roads. Some U.S. States do allow passengers in 5th wheel trailers but many U.S. States do not.

https://www.tripsavvy.com/passengers-in-campers-504228

Since there's no passenger protection in them, it sorta makes sense.

-Crissa

 

[FutureBoy]

All these front/back sleepers that have to have their full length straight lined in order to sleep...

Side sleepers naturally become a bit more compact while sleeping. But unless you are spooning, having 2 or more people can wide pretty quickly. Of course on a cold winter night, spooning is the recommended sleeping position anyway.

 

[anionic1]

Same. Won't be trading in my X with only a 5 seat option

My 4th is on the way. Just lost a lot of points with the wife not being able to sell the 6 seats. That really sucks if it’s true. Maybe it will be an option.

 

[anionic1]

Why wouldn’t you …





82”?

Taken literally, 220” long X 75.8” wide X 74” tall

Closer in size to a Rivian than a Lightning

But agree, I wouldn’t take “about 5% smaller” so literal yet



Interior dimensions, especially the shoulder width of the back seat, are what matter to me. If it can’t fit three car seats across in the back seat, then it means … I don’t have school drop off duty



and I don’t think people appreciate how low/tight that tonneau cover will feel. You’ll not be sitting up.



You’re right, this is for all intents and purposes a 5.5’ X 4’ bed. The 5.5’ isn’t so surprising to me, because the geometric “trick” at the front never impressed me.

But the 4’ metric seems … shocking? That’s narrower than the space between the wheel wells in an F150, and narrower than the bed of a Rivian.

Can’t be 4’ … right?

unless you take 5% smaller literally, and then…

was this downsizing all the “price” of hitting 500mi range?

That’s like a ford ranger bed. I think a lot of the downsizing is to try to get that range. I don’t think the 4680 cells got them nearly the advantages they hoped for and I think the exoskeleton doesn’t do as much load bearing as they had hoped. I bet they are even thinning out that as well. The fact that they changed the bed to plastic says to me that they are desperate to lighten the dead weight.

 

[Qball]

That’s like a ford ranger bed. I think a lot of the downsizing is to try to get that range. I don’t think the 4680 cells got them nearly the advantages they hoped for and I think the exoskeleton doesn’t do as much load bearing as they had hoped. I bet they are even thinning out that as well. The fact that they changed the bed to plastic says to me that they are desperate to lighten the dead weight.

reducing the CT by 5% won’t drastically reduce the weight! Better Weight reduction is achieved by clever engineering like giga casting and consolidation of parts which is what Tesla is known for.

One of his original requirement is fit in a normal garage and there is no way the original version will fit in the garage! plus having wheels stick out like the prototype is illegal is many states so the wheels have to be tucked in meaning bed get much smaller with wheel wells moved inward! It’s unfortunate but many of us who had trucks and off-roaders all know there has to be compromise somewhere. Just measure the distance between the wheel well on ANY full sized trucks, not surprised at all with the size reduction. And none of the full sized truck wheel wells can accompany 35 inch tires with out modification. Granted going from 5 to 4 feet in bed width is sad but hoping that means the space around the wheel wells in the sides are FULL of storage compartments!

Again, most people don’t have the experience but the wheel wells have to be enormous to accommodate 35 inch sized tires! at least I’m hoping it still can!

 

[Deleted member 17810]

Reducing the OD of the truck doesn't necessarily mean reducing the inside proportions.

The flares were clearly reduced in size, but this also means the body width could theoretically remain the same if proportional.

Alot of people are hung up on the door panels. Maybe the two seater setup has thicker panels to make up for the dead space a three seater up front would take up.

I need to get back to work.

 

[Petertsai]

Trailer hitch included?

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