Getting cold feet. Vin Assigned, pickup anyday. What to do?

[Woodrick]

The CT is the reason I installed solar and batteries for my home. While waiting for a CT to materialize, I’ve been driving and enjoying my Lightning for about 18 months. I’ve put around 38k miles on it now. I like it so much I’m keeping it and I’m still excited about getting a VIN for my FS order soon I hope.
Things I will prefer without even having driven a CT that I use extensively and appreciate are the power outlets in the frunk and the size of the frunk. I actually use my Lightning to do work, mostly for ranching and agricultural work. I’ll continue to get paid by my utility company every month to charge my Lightning and very much look forward to getting paid to charge my CT via the excess power my solar panels produce. Buy a CT because it’s useful for you, and what’s the point of shaming an early adopter of an ev truck because of the brand or the vehicle itself?

Brings up an interesting point. Will the Tesla Cybertruck (and maybe Silverado EV) kill the Ford Lightning resale market because of the number traded in to get the Cybertruck?

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[cybercoffee]

Brings up an interesting point. Will the Tesla Cybertruck (and maybe Silverado EV) kill the Ford Lightning resale market because of the number traded in to get the Cybertruck?

I agree that is certainly going to come into play, but I can see ford/gm adopting NACS being an even bigger factor. That will definitely kill the resale market while significantly increasing the competitiveness on new models starting 2025 or whenever they're going to start selling them with NACS on board.

 

[Woodrick]

I agree that is certainly going to come into play, but I can see ford/gm adopting NACS being an even bigger factor. That will definitely kill the resale market while significantly increasing the competitiveness on new models starting 2025 or whenever they're going to start selling them with NACS on board.

I hope that they will have their CCS->NACS adapter soon and that will at least help that part of the cannibalization.

 

[REM]

But you do have multiple houses sharing a single transformer.

They were properly provisioned for the loads that they have experienced for 50 years. The main reason for the 50A is to provide the inrush current for the air conditioners.

It depends on how far you are willing to go back in the chain. I live in the countryside, so I have a dedicated transformer off the pole. Unless you are talking about substation transformers lol, but I doubt that. Most neighborhoods that share large pad mounted transformers are typically provisioned higher than the number of individual houses will ever see. They do this to accommodate for reasonable unforseen growth, like another house being added on a large lot that previously only served one house.

If your panel is rated for 50 amp continuous power, yet someone asks you to limit your power usage to 30, then they don't have their power requirements properly budgeted. Air conditioners and other appliances with motor windings typically have capacitor banks to assist with startup anyway (which can be up to 10x the rated continuous draw).

 

[Woodrick]

It depends on how far you are willing to go back in the chain. I live in the countryside, so I have a dedicated transformer off the pole. Unless you are talking about substation transformers lol, but I doubt that. Most neighborhoods that share large pad mounted transformers are typically provisioned higher than the number of individual houses will ever see. They do this to accommodate for reasonable unforseen growth, like another house being added on a large lot that previously only served one house.

If your panel is rated for 50 amp continuous power, yet someone asks you to limit your power usage to 30, then they don't have their power requirements properly budgeted. Air conditioners and other appliances with motor windings typically have capacitor banks to assist with startup anyway (which can be up to 10x the rated continuous draw).

Everything is under-provisioned on the power network. Even the power generation itself. There is no utility that can take everyone going to max capability of their panel.

Heck, one of my 200A panels has 3 dual(240V) 40A and 4 dual(240A) 30A breakers. And another 20 or so 20A and 15A breakers. Just the 240V circuit total above the panel max at 240A.

There is no need to over-build or just-enough build the network, The max is never used and damn expensive to implement.

You may want to take a look at this thread (2) Pole transformer sizing (or, can you really feed 7 houses with 25 kva?) | Tesla Motors Club
7 houses on a 25kVA transformer and it gets worse as you read the thread.

25 kVA is only 104A @240V. Even if the houses only had 100A panels, that would be 7x the transformer capability, but they probably have 200A panels, 14x the transformer capability!!!

It's the same with municipal water service. If everyone in a city opens their faucets and flushes their toilet, most faucets would be dry, the remainder only trickling water.

 

[KenpoJo]

Spoke to 3 Tesla reps today from 3 different cities here in socal. They all gave me the same answer. Once your vin is assigned, you can downgrade your order from FS to standard, if you want to save the 20k. And say you decide not to go with the Cybertruck you can order another Tesla with the the $1000 and $250 deposit you put down for the CT. I asked in case I wanted to pull the trigger on these sub $40k Model Ys with the PoS tax credit.

but I think you all should call your local Tesla Center to get confirmation yourself as well. lol

 

[Woodrick]

Spoke to 3 Tesla reps today from 3 different cities here in socal. They all gave me the same answer. Once your vin is assigned, you can downgrade your order from FS to standard, if you want to save the 20k. And say you decide not to go with the Cybertruck you can order another Tesla with the the $1000 and $250 deposit you put down for the CT. I asked in case I wanted to pull the trigger on these sub $40k Model Ys with the PoS tax credit.

but I think you all should call your local Tesla Center to get confirmation yourself as well. lol

But if you decide to downgrade, then you don't get the Foundation Series vehicle and have to wait for the non-FS vehicles to ship?

 

[KenpoJo]

But if you decide to downgrade, then you don't get the Foundation Series vehicle and have to wait for the non-FS vehicles to ship?

Yes, exactly. I’m at a toss up. I want the truck now haha. But I don’t think FSD, the badging, and the home backup equipment are worth the $20k straight out of the gate. Plus say I wait a year for my AWD CT to be available, it’ll be $27.5k cheaper, which would just sit better with me

 

[Woodrick]

Yes, exactly. I’m at a toss up. I want the truck now haha. But I don’t think FSD, the badging, and the home backup equipment are worth the $20k straight out of the gate. Plus say I wait a year for my AWD CT to be available, it’ll be $27.5k cheaper, which would just sit better with me

If the cost is going to make you have to stretch much, don't do it. If you are going to get FSD, then it's worth a look.

 

[jerhenderson]

So you're whining because you intended to flip it?

 

[HaulingAss]

So you're whining because you intended to flip it?

Oh, you saw that too?

 

[ideaXfactory]

Were is the vin located on a Cybertruck? I assumed it would be on a physical imprint, or is it just in the software?

 

[Cyber Man]

Spoke to 3 Tesla reps today from 3 different cities here in socal. They all gave me the same answer. Once your vin is assigned, you can downgrade your order from FS to standard, if you want to save the 20k. And say you decide not to go with the Cybertruck you can order another Tesla with the the $1000 and $250 deposit you put down for the CT. I asked in case I wanted to pull the trigger on these sub $40k Model Ys with the PoS tax credit.

but I think you all should call your local Tesla Center to get confirmation yourself as well. lol

+1 - I got the exact same response from multiple Tesla reps. This strategic move is a clear sign that there is good demand for CT FS. Otherwise they would have asked us to buy FS or lose 1K + cancel current reservation. I'm so glad Tesla is allowing early reservation holders this flexibility.

 

[KenpoJo]

+1 - I got the exact same response from multiple Tesla reps. This strategic move is a clear sign that there is good demand for CT FS. Otherwise they would have asked us to buy FS or lose 1K + cancel current reservation. I'm so glad Tesla is allowing early reservation holders this flexibility.

Same im happy it’s flexible. Doesn’t surprise me though.

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