Tesla will change Foundation Series order to Non-FS without penalty (YMMV)

[Baldyloxx]

I would be careful.. it clearly says FSD-Capability..

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[rudedawg78]

Even if you did this, you'll be delaying getting your Cybertruck for at least 1-2 years.

Not sure what this is accomplishing other than wanting to save $20K, and if that's the case, if $20K is a big deciding factor of an almost $100K truck then it's probably not a purchase that you should even be responsibly considering. That's just my opinion.

I would hope that in 1-2 years that the battery cells and/or density will be improved and incorporated into the latest Cybertrucks. Additionally, all these little bugs and nuisances that people are reporting with the FS could be fixed within 1-2 years.

I definitely see a new and improved Cybertruck within 2 years.

 

[PerfectFlaw]

I would hope that in 1-2 years that the battery cells and/or density will be improved and incorporated into the latest Cybertrucks. Additionally, all these little bugs and nuisances that people are reporting with the FS could be fixed within 1-2 years.

I definitely see a new and improved Cybertruck within 2 years.

And 2 years after that, there will be a better version.... And 2 years after that, it will be even better...

At what point do you pull the trigger and get what you want, today? Tomorrow is never promised.

In two years I'll have thousands of miles of enjoyment on my CT and guys like you will still be waiting around to finally pull the trigger. When I'm ready to sell mine, when there's a million on the road, you'll buy yours when it's not special anymore since so many will be on the road and it will be old news.

 

[rudedawg78]

And 2 years after that, there will be a better version.... And 2 years after that, it will be even better...

At what point do you pull the trigger and get what you want, today? Tomorrow is never promised.

In two years I'll have thousands of miles of enjoyment on my CT and guys like you will still be waiting around to finally pull the trigger. When I'm ready to sell mine, when there's a million on the road, you'll buy yours when it's not special anymore since so many will be on the road and it will be old news.

To each their own, I guess.

 

[Crissa]

I can't afford to tack on the price of another car, to the truck.

So I'll wait.

-Crissa

 

[Cyber Man]

I was told few weeks ago that I can change my order from FS to non-FS without cancelling the reservation. I reached out to them again today through the App messaging service.

Now I'm getting a different information. They told me I cannot do it. Once the VIN is assigned, I can max get 3 months extension to push it out. Looks like you get different answers depending on who you talk to .

 

[Woodrick]

I would hope that in 1-2 years that the battery cells and/or density will be improved and incorporated into the latest Cybertrucks. Additionally, all these little bugs and nuisances that people are reporting with the FS could be fixed within 1-2 years.

I definitely see a new and improved Cybertruck within 2 years.

Look at Tesla's track history. How many changes have they done to the Model 3 battery and how much range was increased? Same for the Model Y.
About the only thing that was done is a switch to a cheaper batter for the lower range cars. And for the Model 3, I believe that there has been about a 30-mile range increase, mostly due to software.

There are hundreds of new battery technologies annouced every year. Only about 1% of those make it anywhere. And probably only 1% of those ever make it into production.

The big increase in batteries has been in production ability and reducing the cost of the battery.

 

[PerfectFlaw]

Look at Tesla's track history. How many changes have they done to the Model 3 battery and how much range was increased? Same for the Model Y.
About the only thing that was done is a switch to a cheaper batter for the lower range cars. And for the Model 3, I believe that there has been about a 30-mile range increase, mostly due to software.

There are hundreds of new battery technologies annouced every year. Only about 1% of those make it anywhere. And probably only 1% of those ever make it into production.

The big increase in batteries has been in production ability and reducing the cost of the battery.

Exactly, battery technology just is not improving much - and I can't see that changing any time soon with the Cybertruck, especially when there is the cash grabbing "range extender" option as well.

Think about this, has smartphone battery life really increased over the last decade? Not really. Battery technology is a slow evolution, so don't expect something to change anytime soon with the Cybertruck.

Anyone waiting on the sidelines for battery technology to suddenly improve is going to be waiting a long... long time.

 

[rizvend]

All Tesla vehicles are "FSD Capible" but that doesn't mean FSD is included unless you pay for it. We paid and have it on our Model 3 but decided not to pay the $15k extra when we bought our Model Y but the Model Y is "FSD Capible" sort of. The vision-only tech still doesn't allow many of the FSD features on the '23 Model Y or even the enhanced autopilot features. Buyer beware because people may not get what they think they will at the time of purchase.

In this case, it plainly says, "Included."

 

[shocker]

Tesla rep I communicated with said that ordering a FS commits you to a FS, cancel and the $1000 forfeits. I ordered, at my age the future is now.

 

[rizvend]

Tesla rep I communicated with said that ordering a FS commits you to a FS, cancel and the $1000 forfeits. I ordered, at my age the future is now.

Same experience with two separate reps in KC and San Francisco.

 

[cybercoffee]

I was told few weeks ago that I can change my order from FS to non-FS without cancelling the reservation. I reached out to them again today through the App messaging service.

Now I'm getting a different information. They told me I cannot do it. Once the VIN is assigned, I can max get 3 months extension to push it out. Looks like you get different answers depending on who you talk to .

How did you manage to chat with them? That looks like it’s from the app, right?

 

[cybercoffee]

And 2 years after that, there will be a better version.... And 2 years after that, it will be even better...

At what point do you pull the trigger and get what you want, today? Tomorrow is never promised.

In two years I'll have thousands of miles of enjoyment on my CT and guys like you will still be waiting around to finally pull the trigger. When I'm ready to sell mine, when there's a million on the road, you'll buy yours when it's not special anymore since so many will be on the road and it will be old news.

I largely agree. Some people want the newest iPhone every year too, while others like me want a new one maybe every couple of years. yet others don’t care to replace their decade-old MacBook. I have my own reservations about the now-unveiled production FS cybertruck, but I’m not getting any younger, and we all put a different value on how awesome it would be to start driving one in the very near future.

 

[rizvend]

You can not order FSD now. You can not order AWD now. You can only order the Foundation package now.
The remainder TBD.

...which includes F S D .

 

[Crissa]

Yep, I didn't replace my Air until it was nine years old and had the couch fall on it twice and the screen flickered and finally - finally - got its last new edition of macOS.

But the Cybertruck might see a bunch of battery updates as the 4680 slowly absorbs chemistry advances that the 2170 already has.

-Crissa

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