Cybertruck explosion in Las Vegas; terrorism investigation underway [ADMIN WARNING: NO POLITICS]

[REM]

Send me $1M and I'll design a ball lightning transporter beam for your CT.

*furiously typing cease and desist letter for violating my patent*

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[JBee]

More hooey. Direct contact damage, maybe. Ball lightning is most often not said to be hot, except when it collapses/ends. Emitted RF doesn't come from magic, but takes energy and would rapidly drain a plasma ball sort of object.

No natural ball lighting travels at high speeds. A plasma ball is NOT analogous to the spot from a laser pointer, which is just a reflection, and not a thing in itself at all; such a spot can appear to move faster than light over a long enough distance, but nothing is really moving. A plasma ball is physical and has a continuity limited by inertia, not just a focus of remote energy, so it CANNOT move absurdly fast or be remote controlled over distances to be a useful weapon or entertaining UFO.

Aliens and advanced weaponry are movies and hallucinations and wishful thinking. Doubtless aliens exist...many light years away, probably more than would have enabled them to detect human activity. And we're boring, arrogant, and stupid, not worth their time even if they could. And high drama breakthroughs DO NOT EVER remain secret for decades. Roswell was Project Mogul, balloon borne monitoring of Soviet nuclear tests, not very effective, not breakthrough, not even dramatic except due to how it was covered up. Indeed, it's just about an object lesson that if there are long lasting dramatic rumors, what's ultimately behind them is not particularly dramatic at all. At worst, the dramatic is a coverup for the non-dramatic.

Real conspiracies are BORING...or they wouldn't work. Like someone giving someone else (also a US official, not a foreign spy, just running an amateurish operation of their own) equipment that they're not entitled to, eventually getting caught and losing their job for it. That would be about the only one I've seen in a long time of seeing things people don't hear about. If I'd seen more from higher up, there would be a few others. But they're almost uniformly venial (or somewhat worse), but far less than imagined.

If it's dramatic, it's probably BS, period. Especially if you can't prove it.

No worries, seems you missed some fundamentals on how it works but thats ok, in particular the grape plasma experiment you can do at home, where RF produces plasma above the grape.

Ball lightning is "lightning" and can be destructive, even the grape plasma will ignite something. In fact you can buy battery powered plasma pocket lighters.

Look up phased array radar to get a better impression of how RF can be guided and used. Btw laser pointer is similar in propagation technique just operates different part of the spectrum that is visible.

 

[JBee]

Send me $1M and I'll design a ball lightning transporter beam for your CT.

As I mentioned previously:

Some of the secrecy is achieved by trivialisation, but as with most secrets it's actually because the truth is often best hid in plain sight, and mocking credibility is a much easier way to maintain control of what people believe, especially until now with MSM, because individuals simply lacked the reach to make it common knowledge.

It would seem proof is in the pudding.

It's a tough world where it's much easier for ad hominem attacks than to debunk a single thing I said. You won't be able to meme your way out of this one!

Seeing many seem even incapable of putting a grape in a microwave lets enjoy some low power plasma balls on youtube generated by "invisible" microwave radio frequency just to better understand the underlying concept...



This is not rocket science, just common antenna theory at work.

No need for artificial intelligence or quantum computing, or even more exotic things like alien technology, this stuff has been around for a while in plain sight. Just the applications are different to what we are accustomed too.

The step to have this controllable, is simply removing the microwave enclosure and being able to steer the antenna output, like through a phased array that have been operating since WW2.

In fact I have a few of them, the one on my roof atm, which I'm talking to you with via space is called Starlink.

Now I wonder if the Cybertruck was a "coincidence" or a not so subtle nudge to look somewhere?

Here a video on the operating principle of phased array:



Enjoy!

 

[JBee]

I believe anything is possible in science, but I also believe in things that are published in scientific literature peer reviewed by scientists. To accomplish the technology that’s in this guy’s manifesto, quantum computing is needed. Humans haven’t done a sustainable breakthrough there. Achieving anti-gravity propulsion system will put us at a whole new ring of civilization. We wouldn’t even need fuel rockets anymore. Tesla might be the first one to get us there, and they are still trying to figure out how to catch fuel rockets in mid air! By the time anti-gravity is built in a stable and viable way, the computer and AI system would be so advanced that we might even know how to bend space and time to create time travel wormholes. All these things are theoretically possible, but practically hard to achieve with the current expertise, computing power, and energy source. The very reason AI became so powerful in the last two years is because of computing power. Otherwise, the concept and prototypes existed since decades. Matrix movie was released in 1999. Think about it.

As much as I want to see these technologies come to fruition, I’m not buying that these things exist as of today. If someone like Einstein can outpace quantum computers to create new theories that are vetted by the scientific communities, these things might be achievable sooner than later. Until then, all these things are paranoid assumptions. It wouldn’t take much for any government in the world to falsely leak a document saying they have developed this system.

I'd like to point out that scientific discovery has nothing to do with someone's IQ or education, or lack of one. In fact many discoveries are because they were not accepted by the mainstream view of the day and what was being taught by others, who used the dogma for control of the populace.

In fact it would be extremely unlikely that AI could discover something completely new on it's own, let alone something ground-breaking, if in the first place humans had not observed the phenomenon, or at least a significant part of it in the real world, and fed it their observations in a machine digestible form, with enough prompts to know what to look for. This is known as scientific serendipity and is subject to it's own study in of itself.

All sorts of shit stories circulate in global politics to keep the power. Some are true and some are pure bluff. You won’t know the truth till you see things in action, such as what happened in Japan during World War II.

I think you missed how control is maintained, in that simply "secrets" don't have an "official" media outlet, in fact the government openly talking about the existence of UAPs etc is still seen as a psyop, because no-one believes the government either.

So to what authority do we go to for confirmation, except our own personal investigation of the truth? Most people fail on the threshold of learning enough about something to make an informed decision.

This is all old tech stuff, that you learn from history books, not sci-fi novels.

 

[rlhamil]

If it were even remotely possible to control a plasma ball, that would take masers on at least six sides, SURROUNDING it like with laser initiated fusion, probably more. You could NOT do it with an array of them on a ship or submarine or whatever. You would still need multiple small physical flying objects with massive electrical power available to it, which is not feasible.

No, it would not be controllable, except to send it on its way, even if it would be stable for long enough for that, which i doubt. That MIGHT be useful to provoke a reaction, so that conventional surveillance could study the reaction and implied capabilities. But you don't need anything so tricky for that.

And heck, there's at least one company making relatively conventional drones (propellers) that can operate both in the air and underwater. No need to believe high drama.

There are some applications of known techniques that are held closely. But they do not generally apply to physical objects. You can find online nearly all of the design info for at least a fission bomb (a fusion bomb has some subtleties that are easily missed), despite efforts to hold that very closely.

 

[CyberGus]

that would take masers on at least six sides, SURROUNDING it like with lasers

I’m waiting for phasers

Elon can do it

 

[JBee]

If it were even remotely possible to control a plasma ball, that would take masers on at least six sides, SURROUNDING it like with laser initiated fusion, probably more. You could NOT do it with an array of them on a ship or submarine or whatever. You would still need multiple small physical flying objects with massive electrical power available to it, which is not feasible.

No, it would not be controllable, except to send it on its way, even if it would be stable for long enough for that, which i doubt. That MIGHT be useful to provoke a reaction, so that conventional surveillance could study the reaction and implied capabilities. But you don't need anything so tricky for that.

And heck, there's at least one company making relatively conventional drones (propellers) that can operate both in the air and underwater. No need to believe high drama.

There are some applications of known techniques that are held closely. But they do not generally apply to physical objects. You can find online nearly all of the design info for at least a fission bomb (a fusion bomb has some subtleties that are easily missed), despite efforts to hold that very closely.

It doesn't need six side to control it at all, in fact not even two using a dipole field and/or phased array (hundreds or thousands of antennae at one location), you seriously need to lookup phased array to get further traction on the subject, like the video I posted above. Just keep in mind that the RF signal is generating the plasma locally and the plasma is dissipating into the atmosphere, and it is not being contained by an external magnetic field, like is commonly used in industrial plasma control processes.

And heck, there's at least one company making relatively conventional drones (propellers) that can operate both in the air and underwater. No need to believe high drama.

I actually build custom fully autonomous long range BLOS SLAM eVTOL drones for SAR competitions since 2009. But these things don't need to be built or stored, they are just made of plasma that dissipates once the transmission stops, so even finding the source would be difficult if you didn't know what to look for.

 

[dalton108]

I’m waiting for phasers

Elon can do it

Yeah, but if he does, it’ll have a fart setting. ?

“Set phasers to fart, Mr. Sulu.”

 

[JBee]

I’m waiting for phasers

Elon can do it

I have one already. It's set to stun!

 

[rlhamil]

I know more about all these subjects than you do, except for building (physical) drones, which I have no interest in (living near an airport, NOT a good idea). I've been aware of how phased array radars work for decades. I may not know most of the math for advanced physics, but I know enough to tell what passes the smell test and what doesn't.

Lacking proof, the simplest explanation is you're not in touch with reality at least when it comes to the notion of plasma drones.

Plasma drones appear in one or two video games, a sci-fi sort of thing. SOME people speculate that some of the concentrations of (physical) drones are tracking "plasmoids", but they're indulging in fantasy too, because they go off into talking about things that ONLY exist under very extreme conditions, like for nanoseconds in a high power collider, or maybe in a hypothetical quark star (something possibly between a neutron star and a black hole in how far it's collapsed, but not yet detected).

 

[JBee]

Yeah, but if he does, it’ll have a fart setting. ?

“Set phasers to fart, Mr. Sulu.”

Somewhat ironically, Starship actually could run off farts, seeing they are mostly methane and CO2. I've been meaning to propose this to EM for a while, seeing that I have a >1MW (1000kw) geny in my backyard that does exactly that through anaerobic digestion of waste organic material. Very common in Europe and Asia, and using CHP exports power, distributed heat and scrubbed methane back into the NG pipelines. Quite effective way of doing RE that also has the benefit of reducing emissions from organic waste from human production. That way Starship would be renewable powered too.

 

[rlhamil]

Somewhat ironically, Starship actually could run off farts, seeing they are mostly methane and CO2. I've been meaning to propose this to EM for a while, seeing that I have a >1MW (1000kw) geny in my backyard that does exactly that through anaerobic digestion of waste organic material. Very common in Europe and Asia, and using CHP exports power, distributed heat and scrubbed methane back into the NG pipelines. Quite effective way of doing RE that also has the benefit of reducing emissions from organic waste from human production. That way Starship would be renewable powered too.

I want to see how a herd of cattle on Starbase would react at a launch. I bet they'd mostly stampede themselves to death. Waste of good steak, IMO. People Eating Tasty Animals!

They need to work anyway on improving existing technology that uses the Sabatier reaction to create methane from CO2 and water; they'll need that on Mars.

 

[JBee]

I know more about all these subjects than you do, except for building (physical) drones, which I have no interest in (living near an airport, NOT a good idea). I've been aware of how phased array radars work for decades. I may not know most of the math for advanced physics, but I know enough to tell what passes the smell test and what doesn't.

Lacking proof, the simplest explanation is you're not in touch with reality at least when it comes to the notion of plasma drones.

Plasma drones appear in one or two video games, a sci-fi sort of thing. SOME people speculate that some of the concentrations of (physical) drones are tracking "plasmoids", but they're indulging in fantasy too, because they go off into talking about things that ONLY exist under very extreme conditions, like for nanoseconds in a high power collider, or maybe in a hypothetical quark star (something possibly between a neutron star and a black hole in how far it's collapsed, but not yet detected).

That would be cool if it were the case, then we'd have something to talk about. But you aren't actually disputing anything I have detailed so far, rather you have just tried to prove your standing, and given me platitudes on how there is nothing new under the sun.

Do you have a problem with the existence of creating low powered plasmas in microwaves using grapes as demonstrated in the video above? If not, then tell me by what mechanism is the plasma moving away from the grape once it's created, and by what means the plasma ball continues to exist, if not by the energy of the RF transmission of microwaves?

 

[rlhamil]

That would be cool if it were the case, then we'd have something to talk about. But you aren't actually disputing anything I have detailed so far, rather you have just tried to prove your standing, and given me platitudes on how there is nothing new under the sun.

Do you have a problem with the existence of creating low powered plasmas in microwaves using grapes as demonstrated in the video above? If not, then tell me by what mechanism is the plasma moving away from the grape once it's created, and by what means the plasma ball continues to exist, if not by the energy of the RF transmission of microwaves?

There's vast amounts of new phenomena, processes, objects, still out there to be discovered; we (yes, even me, sadly) are rather ignorant. They just do not stay secret for very long, give or take techniques that are boring except to a small scattering of people. A dramatic notion one can't prove is almost universally WRONG, except as a cover for something far more boring.

I have no problem with what can be done in a microwave oven. with the microwaves scattered and traveling in more or less all directions in the chamber. I'm not going to try it, but I accept that it can happen.

It does not therefore follow that controllable plasma balls operated by offshore vessels are flying over New Jersey, that's just nucking futz. Not unless the plasma ball is inside a microwave oven being carried and powered by a physical drone. No phased array like collection of masers on the ground (or on a ship) is going to achieve similar effects, period. The absolute least you'd need in addition to anything surface based is one or more flying microwave reflectors, and those would be very obvious...and probably not nearly accurate enough for the desired result at the target point. And I STILL don't think that would work in practice even with physical reflectors, although I can't rule it out entirely.

Always look for the least dramatic, mostly off-the-shelf explanation, unless there is incontrovertible proof that that's insufficient. Think of it as Occam's Razor vs tinfoil hat.

 

[JBee]

I want to see how a herd of cattle on Starbase would react at a launch. I bet they'd mostly stampede themselves to death. Waste of good steak, IMO. People Eating Tasty Animals!

They need to work anyway on improving existing technology that uses the Sabatier reaction to create methane from CO2 and water; they'll need that on Mars.

The cattle can be anywhere on the NG grid pipeline in the whole country, because the methane gas is simply injected into the existing NG pipeline, and then at Starbase can either be piped in using the existing NG pipelines, or trucked in from the nearest distribution point. You also don't need cows to power it, ANY organic material will anaerobically decompose, with higher gas yields stemming from higher calorific waste streams, like food waste etc.

The good thing about it is that you need to grow food on Mars anyway, and you will have organic waste from humans etc and after the methane is produced, the remaining solid waste is decontaminated organic mulch that can be used for ag. Biogas(methane) production not only converts the waste into a energy source and fertiliser, but also provides another pathway for organic, self reproducing production of methane fuel without industrial size processes, that need to be transported, built and maintained. One can also use solid state methane fuel cells as CHP (Combined Heat Power).

You can essentially use a glorified plastic bag for the whole thing, you just need to inoculate it with a small pocket sized sample of the right start cultures to get it going, and then literally feed it waste organics, including human waste etc.

Here a very basic version, there are 100,000's of these and more industrial ones (as above link) in operation doing exactly that:

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