Cybertruck will have low sales regardless of the price IMHO

[OrangeOtto]

MY definition of a work truck:

Something that can haul heavy machinery as in up to 30k lbs:

I live in the Rockies. Lots of folks here place this 1400lb hydraulic plow on the front of thier trucks:

How about pulling 15k lbs of a goosenecked fifth wheel greater than 90 miles, through the Rockies, without having to charge… every… 90…. Miles which will likely cost 3x as much as diesel:

Lets see the CT do that. It cant.

My response was to the OP’s comments about the southeast (likely rural) use of trucks. The above are good examples of what rural folks may do with their “work truck”.

If we are talking tradesman, you need to define that. At 80k, you are getting a not-decked-out CT. For that same 80k you are getting a decent diesel truck. For 80k, if I have to haul anything of consequence or make extra money plowing in the winter, I will pay for the diesel. If I just need a tool hauler, then the CT will possibly work as long as my tools fit in the equivalent of a job box.. But if I am plumbing or doing electrician work where I carry a crap ton of parts, I may do it after there is enough aftermarket storage compartments for the CT like this:

So guess which one is likely to get chosen as a work truck at this stage of the game?

Nah man, those aren't work trucks either...if they can't do what this truck does then it doesn't qualify as a work truck.

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[M0unt41nm4n]

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who takes the top example of what the truck isn't well suited for, and pretend like that's the make or break for it being useful at all as a work truck.

Plumbers, electricians, landscapers, welders. I see those dudes by the 1,000s and none of them are hauling f****** 5th wheels dude, ffs. There are alredy people out there saving HUNDREDS of dollars each month by having a CT.

If that doesn't apply to your specific trade and use cases, then by all means keep using a diesel truck.

wait dude… you jumped on me about me saying it’s not a work truck. What was the OPs original intention. Did I not say it’s good for what it does? To use the right hammer for the right nail?

Then you got all pissy because being rural you haul shit or snow plow with it? Snow plowing is extreme? Where I live a lot of contractors have snow plows got their trucks.

WTF are you arguing about? The CT sucks doing that shit. That’s why I own a CT *and* a diesel truck. So I can do the stuff they are both good at doing.

Yes being rural it applies to my trade (and non trade) and I most certainly do use the diesel truck ?

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

Nah man, those aren't work trucks either...if they can't do what this truck does then it doesn't qualify as a work truck.

Now that’s a work truck!

 

[REM]

Like me, I think a lot of people bought the CT because of it's uniqueness, individuality, statement and because I could afford to buy one. I've never had a pick-up truck. I've never had an electric vehicle..........yet I bought a Cybertruck. I really have no use for a pick up truck nor do I go camping or off-roading. Honestly, I didn't know if I'd like it, but I took the plunge and totally glad I did.

I think there are many unique "markets" for a Cybertruck, but none that you could classify a "massive market" for sales opportunity. I accept it for what it is.........not what it should be. It's definitely not for everyone and definitely won't fulfill all the needs for off-roaders, campers, truck haulers, etc. But for my everyday short trips, I love the technology and ease of driving.

Now that’s a work truck!

If it can't handle the vacuum of space, then don't bother. Not good enough as a work truck.

 

[dalton108]

My dad was a journeyman electrician for decades never owned a truck. This was his work truck:

Not this exact one, but a ‘74 - just remove the spoiler and that’s the car! I also had a banana yellow ‘74, with giant BFGs, Centerline wheels and air shocks, in my 20s.

Cybertruck is my first truck. What I like is going fast! Family tradition!

My dad now has my old ‘15 C7 and a model Y Performance. Has still never owned a truck. Thinks my cybertruck is hideous!

 

[DistilledBison]

Like I said, we've had this conversation so many times before.

1. Third party products are third party because no, not everyone needs your thing. That's why there's mounts for roof racks and yet I never wanted one installed by the manufacturer! And I've had one on four of last five cars.
2. No, the handle on the outside is dumb. Literally, if the power doesn't work, the vehicle doesn't work, it's not an old jalopy. The power door popper is stronger than you, and the lack of handle saves energy going down the road. EVs are different than manual.
3. Yes, it's an EV. It doesn't do 'neutral' it does forward, back, and park. Having a physical lever isn't useful. You should never be using this control quickly. I say this and my Mazda 3 is stick. I failed drivers ed because I had never driven automatic. And since, I have only had one automatic transmission car! EVs are just different than manual.
4. Buttons, again? Moving parts are just more likely to break.
5. Under the bed is stupid. That's where the battery and motor are in an EV. Putting it there is an old trick from when there was a wasteful frame down there. EVs are different than old manual driven things... Besides, putting something filled with air under raises your center of gravity. You never want to raise your center of gravity.

You are looking at the wrong company if you want features which make it less reliable, less safe, less efficient.

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-Crissa

1. Roof racks are special use case, not every vehicle has one or needs one. AC is not special use case, every vehicle has it and the cybertruck is no exception here. No physical controls = poor design choice which we will see outdated in the next decade. People are burned out on screens and want more tactile experiences. But if you want to do everything from an Ipad for the sake of aesthetic be my guest. taking your eyes off the road to adjust your temperature on a screen is a wreck waiting to happen. it requires more effort and concentration to make sure your fingers aren't slipping around on a greasy screen lol.
2. the lack of a handle on the outside is a safety hazard. Thinking otherwise is just silly. More than one case has already come out about parents EVs locking them out with their infant in the back of a hot car. And no this was not the parents fault, there was an issue with the vehicle that basically bricked the car after exiting. thankfully glass is glass, and glass breaks so no dead babies. But still this should not be an issue in the 21st century. Removing the handles was a cost cutting strategy, nothing more. (yes I would happily pay more for physical handles)
3. Great point, EVs should have a neutral point in their gear selection tree. Would make them better if/when they need to be towed. Rather than drag it up a ramp, we can finally roll it so we dont damage the motors, tires, drive components, etc. Also, I think you are confusing a gear selector for manual transmission, they are similar but not the same. Gear selectors are usually found in automatics, not manual transmission vehicles. However since you said you failed drivers ed in an automatic i'll give you some grace there. Automatics all have different methods of doing the same function.
4. With every button that opens something in the Cybertruck, there is a physical redundancy in place in case the button fails....Buttons aren't magic, there has to be a physical mechanism in place to keep things closed. Just remove the button and give me a lever to pull since its already there anyway, just hidden from sight.
5. Thats a silly thing to say, under the bed is better than not there at all lol. Who says the battery and motors have to be where they currently are? I'm sure we can push/pull some walls to make space for a tire under there without sacrificing everyones precious ground clearance. No, adding an air filled spare tire will not raise your center of gravity. It will actually do the opposite, do you think spare tires will just float off your car if not bolted down? Plus, doesn't the truck have air suspension to raise it up to have 17in of ground clearance? isn't that "raising your center of gravity"? I say they add the spare and jack the truck up another 3in just to be safe.

Still love the truck, just think it wasn't designed for truck people. obviously. If anything it is a really cool car with a truckbed.

-Ricky

 

[DistilledBison]

Tell me that you’ve never been in a Tesla without telling me you’ve never been in a Tesla

I have been several times, these are just my personal observations about the cybertruck specifically.

 

[CyberGus]

I have been several times, these are just my personal observations about the cybertruck specifically.

Gotcha, everyone has personal preferences and you're free to share them. It's just that Tesla generally eschews buttons, and they eliminate them at every opportunity. That's not really going to change.

 

[Trimotor]

Now that’s a work truck!

The biggest !

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

The biggest !

Imagine what the oil change would cost on that bad boy.

 

[Deleted member 8313]

Originally had reserved 2 trucks. One for business and one for personal use. After long hard thoughts and actually seeing them. Just not my type any more. For a 80-100 I want luxury not minimal. Too many new EV's coming on the market. The Cyber truck just doesn't look cool anymore to me. Not to mention Elon's questionable behavior lately has turned me and my family off any Tesla products. Put a deposit down on the Scout EV/gas Traveler. Really digging it.

 

[flyinglow]

Tesla has to dump Elon. He's managing to piss off the entire country. It will hurt all Tesla sales.

 

[GuyV]

MY definition of a work truck:

Something that can haul heavy machinery as in up to 30k lbs:

I live in the Rockies. Lots of folks here place this 1400lb hydraulic plow on the front of thier trucks:

How about pulling 15k lbs of a goosenecked fifth wheel greater than 90 miles, through the Rockies, without having to charge… every… 90…. Miles which will likely cost 3x as much as diesel:

Lets see the CT do that. It cant.

My response was to the OP’s comments about the southeast (likely rural) use of trucks. The above are good examples of what rural folks may do with their “work truck”.

If we are talking tradesman, you need to define that. At 80k, you are getting a not-decked-out CT. For that same 80k you are getting a decent diesel truck. For 80k, if I have to haul anything of consequence or make extra money plowing in the winter, I will pay for the diesel. If I just need a tool hauler, then the CT will possibly work as long as my tools fit in the equivalent of a job box.. But if I am plumbing or doing electrician work where I carry a crap ton of parts, I may do it after there is enough aftermarket storage compartments for the CT like this:

So guess which one is likely to get chosen as a work truck at this stage of the game?

You're not doing those things with an F-150 either.

 

[M0unt41nm4n]

You're not doing those things with an F-150 either.

Damn straight I’m not.

 

[GuyV]

It’s always amazing when people stop me and want a quick tour of the CT. They’re blown away when they see the back when I raise the Tonneau cover…..”It’s a pick up truck! That’s a huge truck bed!”

if the CT did not have the Tonneau cover down more people would see it was a truck.

Yeah, I tend to drive locally with it open as it makes it more familiarly "trucklike" both for me and lookers. That applies for the rear-view mirror as well, though that tends to remind me that the camera does a far better job.

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