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[Cirrus SR22]

I guess if you like to do those things while sitting in a public parking lot, more power to you. I would rather doing those things at home. I can tell they are just killing time, it's not where they really want to be.



My observations apply to where I live, in Washington. In places like Seattle and Tukwila, the minimum starting wage for all workers is $20.76/hr. and $21.10/hr.(respectively). Only entry level jobs at places like McDonalds and Walmart are at minimum. Once you have been there a while, or you have a "real" job, it will be higher, generally much higher. People at minimum wage are not the people buying new Tesla with free Supercharging. Yes, there are exceptions, I'm not talking about edge cases, I'm talking about the people whose time should be more valuable than the few dollars they can pump into their car in an hour.

Furthermore, in this region, electricity is only $0.10-0.11/kWh. The way I look at it is that people can use their spare time as they see fit. Those who are smart will not feel tied to one of these low wage jobs, they will spend their time productively, to make a better life for themselves. Maybe they will start a business or pick up odd jobs doing something they like and are good at. You don't get ahead by sitting on your ass in a parking lot making $6/hour. You also have to count the time and electricity it takes to get to the charging station (yes, the vast majority of these people have charging at home).

I often drive right by a Supercharger but the math doesn't work. I have places to be, things to do, that make sitting in my car in a parking lot not a smart plan. I do use the free Supercharging during my rest breaks on a road trip and it's great knowing that it's free, that I don't have to pay $0.40/kWh to fill up, but if I can do it at home for only $0.11/kWh, that's what I do (and that's what most people who have Free Supercharging do).

It just depends on the situation, I see your point. However, since I got Free SC, it is difficult to charge at home which by way adds up to $6000 per year at $500 per month as I drive 4k miles a month. I usually charge over lunch like at the Cheescake factory with 40 stalls or I type up an estimate or reply to emails. The truck is usually done and I still have task to do so for me it works. Not like I have an 8-5 job then stop after work to charge, that would suck.

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[GuyV]

I guess if you like to do those things while sitting in a public parking lot, more power to you. I would rather doing those things at home. I can tell they are just killing time, it's not where they really want to be.



My observations apply to where I live, in Washington. In places like Seattle and Tukwila, the minimum starting wage for all workers is $20.76/hr. and $21.10/hr.(respectively). Only entry level jobs at places like McDonalds and Walmart are at minimum. Once you have been there a while, or you have a "real" job, it will be higher, generally much higher. People at minimum wage are not the people buying new Tesla with free Supercharging. Yes, there are exceptions, I'm not talking about edge cases, I'm talking about the people whose time should be more valuable than the few dollars they can pump into their car in an hour.

Furthermore, in this region, electricity is only $0.10-0.11/kWh. The way I look at it is that people can use their spare time as they see fit. Those who are smart will not feel tied to one of these low wage jobs, they will spend their time productively, to make a better life for themselves. Maybe they will start a business or pick up odd jobs doing something they like and are good at. You don't get ahead by sitting on your ass in a parking lot making $6/hour. You also have to count the time and electricity it takes to get to the charging station (yes, the vast majority of these people have charging at home).

I often drive right by a Supercharger but the math doesn't work. I have places to be, things to do, that make sitting in my car in a parking lot not a smart plan. I do use the free Supercharging during my rest breaks on a road trip and it's great knowing that it's free, that I don't have to pay $0.40/kWh to fill up, but if I can do it at home for only $0.11/kWh, that's what I do (and that's what most people who have Free Supercharging do).

LOL, it's not like you're sitting there for hours. It's a short trip to a store, an outing for the dog, and a few of those relaxation activities to fill the buffer time you need to allow to avoid idle fees. You can apply your charging savings to the goodies you bought while shopping. That's if you are retired like I am. I suppose if you are still working you can fill in with that instead and put the savings into your IRA.

 

[vandytom]

I’ll wait for the non-foundation non-luxe series then.

 

[hemiarch]

I’ll wait for the non-foundation non-luxe series then.

Turns out that is now the rarest of all beasts. One that has free nothing and no factory accessories.
Especially if it’s FSD-less. That’s the two dollar bill.

 

[L3it3R]

Nope
Core wheels, black interior, base floor mats...

Ummmmm. No.

 

[Crissa]

Guess I am just used to growing up straightening nails to be reused again mind set.

The temper on the nails are ruined after straightening. It's a bad investment.

-Crissa

 

[smcnaughton829]

The temper on the nails are ruined after straightening. It's a bad investment.

-Crissa

I guess you totally missed the meaning. I grew up poor.

 

[Macgreiner]

I guess if you like to do those things while sitting in a public parking lot, more power to you. I would rather doing those things at home. I can tell they are just killing time, it's not where they really want to be.



My observations apply to where I live, in Washington. In places like Seattle and Tukwila, the minimum starting wage for all workers is $20.76/hr. and $21.10/hr.(respectively). Only entry level jobs at places like McDonalds and Walmart are at minimum. Once you have been there a while, or you have a "real" job, it will be higher, generally much higher. People at minimum wage are not the people buying new Tesla with free Supercharging. Yes, there are exceptions, I'm not talking about edge cases, I'm talking about the people whose time should be more valuable than the few dollars they can pump into their car in an hour.

Furthermore, in this region, electricity is only $0.10-0.11/kWh. The way I look at it is that people can use their spare time as they see fit. Those who are smart will not feel tied to one of these low wage jobs, they will spend their time productively, to make a better life for themselves. Maybe they will start a business or pick up odd jobs doing something they like and are good at. You don't get ahead by sitting on your ass in a parking lot making $6/hour. You also have to count the time and electricity it takes to get to the charging station (yes, the vast majority of these people have charging at home).

I often drive right by a Supercharger but the math doesn't work. I have places to be, things to do, that make sitting in my car in a parking lot not a smart plan. I do use the free Supercharging during my rest breaks on a road trip and it's great knowing that it's free, that I don't have to pay $0.40/kWh to fill up, but if I can do it at home for only $0.11/kWh, that's what I do (and that's what most people who have Free Supercharging do).

Again, the tired old trope that poor people are poor because they just lazy. You people really don't have a clue do you.

 

[HaulingAss]

Again, the tired old trope that poor people are poor because they just lazy. You people really don't have a clue do you.

I didn't say that. I said that making $6/hr is not the best way to get ahead.

You ought to knock off the class warfare BS.

 

[Dahongfei]

Tesla is definitely positioning cyber like the S and X now. Giving up on mass produced numbers hope

 

[Cybertruck2024]

I didn't say that. I said that making $6/hr is not the best way to get ahead.

You ought to knock off the class warfare BS.

I started a second side job and had more money rolling in from it. However my second side hustle was paying me about 1/3 of what my career paid me. I stopped after a year. It doesn't matter if you are rich or poor, evaluating the value of your time is a key life skill.

Regarding the FSCB, the best value if you wanted all the bells and whistles was still the early FS. The addition of the powershare credits and equipment make it the best value of any CB ever released. If you didn't want any of the extras, the $100k VB with free supercharging was the best value. It is subjective if the extras are good or not, but once you decide if you wanted them, the best trim becomes a fact.

The new package is kind of in no man's land. It doesn't give the everything you will ever need bundle discount of FSCB or the thrifty stripped value price of the Non-FS.

 

[GuyV]

I didn't say that. I said that making $6/hr is not the best way to get ahead.

You ought to knock off the class warfare BS.

Making $6/hour while you are relaxing and enjoying yourself is a great way to get ahead.

That's the same return you would get on $1,232,394.37 of 10-year treasury bonds at the current 4.26%

 

[Phenmonolimit]

Free lifetime charging is a game changer.

The Unlimited Supercharging for Life alone is almost worth it for anyone who road trips several times a year. (Me, me. Haha)

This !!! Current FSCB owner with free lifetime charging and we love our road trips.

 

[hemiarch]

The best way to get ahead is to do something for a living that brings you joy. Whatever that may be.
I know that sounds kind of hallmarky but anything like that you do, you do well, and that pays.
I do something I love for a living and I’m paid well for it, but I still like to sit and meditate at the supercharger a couple of times a week because my job is very stressful and taxing and it gives me some space to reset my energy and not bring it home to my family.

I personally went to a lot of effort to get free supercharging not because of the math but because I like the idea that even if someone came and took every cent I have. I can still get in the car and go anywhere I want with my wife and kids. It’s a certain kind of freedom having money doesn’t afford me because money can always go away.
Crazy, yes, irrational yes. Would I do it again? yes.

Having said all that, we have had free supercharging since our signature series model x in 2016 and by my math I have used about $45k in Tesla energy since then.
What I do with my spare change is buy SPY because I’m simple and not educated enough to invest on my own.
The math of nonlinear investing is too complicated for me, but I know for sure that $45k has amounted to WAY more money than that in gains and dividends.
So those of you who say this is a dumb benefit, waste of time etc. Good for you. Do what works best in your life. I’ll keep doing what is best in mine.

 

[hemiarch]

Tesla is definitely positioning cyber like the S and X now. Giving up on mass produced numbers hope

I think the reality has always been that and not the same class of product as the 3 and Y no matter what Elon said.
Why? because it wasn’t a pared down version of larger more expensive product like the 3 and y were. Tesla’s original growth plan succeeded exactly because of this.
Remember, S and X first?
Bring on the mini Cybertruck. I’m ready to sell it for them by continuing to drive my Cybertruck around.

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