Elon confident "we'll allow you to text and drive [with FSD] in next month or two"

[CyberGuyHawaii]

Any tips to make the switch? For your Cybertruck do you just use the card and not care about the app features?

I was actually thinking of making a post about the switch in case anybody else is interested. But, here’s what I did. I already had an Apple Watch Ultra paired to my iPhone. I got a flip phone and moved my phone number to that. Then added a new phone number to the iPhone, which I keep off in my center console. The Apple Watch has cellular, so I use that to lock/unlock the truck. It took a few days to get used to but now enjoying life again not being connected to a damn phone.

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[rudedawg78]

Can someone please translate Elon's "in next month or two" to real standard time?

 

[bg002h]

Also iii) liability solution. Tesla would have to assume liability for any damage caused by FSD during the unsupervised autonomous operation of a Tesla vehicle (assuming FSD was at fault). Tesla would probably have to take some internal legal and financial steps to address their legal exposure (like obtaining appropriate insurance coverage, for example).

Waymo and Zoox are liable if one of their Level 4 robotaxis is at fault in an accident. Same with Mercedes if their Level 3 Drive Pilot is active. Tesla will face the same issues once FSD starts operating unsupervised.

The legal standards for who is operating a vehicle and how to prove it will be an interesting development to watch. My best guess is Tesla will not provide the means to prove it’s their fault and not yours…

 

[ModelXer]

Elon Musk on using your phone with FSD engaged:

“I'm confident in the next month or two we're going to look at the safety statistics and we'll allow you text and drive. V14.3 is when you pretty much can pretty much fall asleep and wake up at your destination”

He said this at the shareholder meeting last night.

I'm confused. I can text hands-free using voice commands in my MX. Tap the Mic on the yoke, tell it who I want to text and speak the text. Tap Send and we're done. What am I not understanding?

 

[ModelXer]

Can someone please translate Elon's "in next month or two" to real standard time?

Watch the movie "Money Pit" and you'll get the definition of "two weeks".
(Tom Hanks, Shelley Duvall)

 

[rudedawg78]

Watch the movie "Money Pit" and you'll get the definition of "two weeks".
(Tom Hanks, Shelley Duvall)

Love that movie!

 

[Hazard One]

That was a mistake for him to say that. There are laws on the books in most states against having devices in your hand, and they don't care if you have a Tesla w/FSD. Regulations need to be passed before this can happen.

Its illegal to speed too, but, you can tell FSD to do that…

 

[Griswold]

I was actually thinking of making a post about the switch in case anybody else is interested. But, here’s what I did. I already had an Apple Watch Ultra paired to my iPhone. I got a flip phone and moved my phone number to that. Then added a new phone number to the iPhone, which I keep off in my center console. The Apple Watch has cellular, so I use that to lock/unlock the truck. It took a few days to get used to but now enjoying life again not being connected to a damn phone.

Thanks, maybe another post would be worthwhile so it's not buried here. I've tried dumbing down my smartphone as much as possible and just keeping essential apps. Browser is the main holdout though. Wish others would do the same. Tiktok, doom scrolling, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are a huge drain on society. The quicker people realize this the better.

 

[YDR37]

The legal standards for who is operating a vehicle and how to prove it will be an interesting development to watch. My best guess is Tesla will not provide the means to prove it’s their fault and not yours…

If you are inside a Tesla vehicle with no steering wheel and no pedals, then how can the liability be on you? You would literally have no means of controlling the vehicle, and therefore no means of causing or preventing an accident.

Earlier this week, Elon stated that such vehicles are coming in six months:

“We’ve got the first car that is specifically built for unsupervised, full self-driving to be a robotaxi called a Cybercab — it doesn’t even have pedals or steering wheel,” Musk said, adding there will be no side mirrors either. “It’s very much optimized for the lowest cost-per-mile in an autonomous mode and production is happening right here in this factory, and we’ll be starting production in April next year.”

With a vehicle like this, Telsa has to assume liability. Would you ride in a vehicle where you have 0% control, yet 100% responsibility for any accidents?

 

[arnav_8]

I like the conference in the statement. But like many have said, we definitely need the regulation part of it approved too. Otherwise a whole lot of us are getting tickets.

I’d like it if my CT stops hugging the left line. Let’s start with that.

My wife’s Model Y with HW4 and FSD 14.1.3 just drove through two parking lots to get to a road in MadMax mode. There was no reason to not stick to the road and take a right, 2 min down. I am amused and a bit worried at the same time.

Can’t wait to get FSD 14 on my CT. Good times.
cheers!

 

[Gaximus]

Also iii) liability solution. Tesla would have to assume liability for any damage caused by FSD during the unsupervised autonomous operation of a Tesla vehicle (assuming FSD was at fault). Tesla would probably have to take some internal legal and financial steps to address their legal exposure (like obtaining appropriate insurance coverage, for example).

Waymo and Zoox are liable if one of their Level 4 robotaxis is at fault in an accident. Same with Mercedes if their Level 3 Drive Pilot is active. Tesla will face the same issues once FSD starts operating unsupervised.

This has always been the case, if your driving and the wheel falls off your Ford, they are responsible for the damages.

 

[CyberGuyHawaii]

Thanks, maybe another post would be worthwhile so it's not buried here. I've tried dumbing down my smartphone as much as possible and just keeping essential apps. Browser is the main holdout though. Wish others would do the same. Tiktok, doom scrolling, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are a huge drain on society. The quicker people realize this the better.

Well its very doable. I just use an iPad Pro for the web and only take it out a couple times a day for a few min. Completely agree with you man on the society piece. Society has gone so far downhill with all the social media.

 

[Gaximus]

To achieve text and drive while autonomy, you need two things.

i) technical solution
ii) regulation

Elon is saying about the technical solution part. Regulation is the another thing.

Crazy to think that 2 will be more difficult.

 

[YDR37]

This has always been the case, if your driving and the wheel falls off your Ford, they are responsible for the damages.

It's always been the case for wheels, but not for self-driving systems.

If a driver is using Ford BlueCruise or Tesla FSD (Supervised). and the system makes a mistake, the driver still has partial or full liability, because he is required to supervise the system.

But if Tesla offers Unsupervised FSD, and the system makes a mistake, then the liability is all on Tesla, just like if a wheel fell off. That's a big difference from Supervised FSD, and it means that Tesla will have a lot more legal exposure.

 

[Baldyloxx]

To be fair… there has been no specific mention of “Unsupervised” yet.. we are now speculating.

..unless I’ve missed something

This still could be just a nag adjustment while using Supervised FSD.

…because Elon has never stretched the truth… said no one ever

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