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Are you sure you’re not trying to justify your decision to hold out for a truck that is slightly faster, but looks exactly the same, already lost its title as “fastest truck”, and will still get walked by plenty of cars on the road today (Plaids, Lucids, the latest exotics, and who knows what else in the next couple years (R1TQ, R3X, Roadster, etc.))? Oh and it lacks a locking rear differential and gets less range when compared to its slightly slower sibling…

Could have paid cash for either but chose the one with the most range because that’s what’s important to me. Further, anyone with an FSAWD could have waited a year gotten a Beast at the same price so again, saying anyone settled is disingenuous at best. Enjoy your truck but don’t belittle others for having different values than yourself.
You drive 300+ miles a day that you can’t plug it in at night to charge? How isn’t not the fastest truck? Name one faster.
Belittle values? What values am I belittling? You go off on a tangent on trying to justify why you bought the slower/less powerful cybertruck then try to tell me I’m belittling your values? Only reason people haven’t called you out on not buying The Beast is because they haven’t been released in the masses yet.You basically bought the station wagon of Cyber trucks
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Actually, in our case it’s because we didn’t want to wait longer for it (picked up our AWD last Saturday). Well, and I wrestled with whether it’d be worth it to me personally to pay the extra money for it. But in the end I wanted one today, not tomorrow. Had nothing to do with not having the money. (In other words, we have the money.)

And not because of getting a “shiny new toy” to show off (although there’s nothing wrong with that if that’s what trips your trigger; just like there’s nothing wrong with you wanting the fastest model if that’s your thing). Rather, we wanted it now to have the joy associated with driving one sooner.

If we could’ve gotten the Beast or the AWD at the same time, not sure what we would’ve done. But suspect we may have gone AWD anyway. Just not sure I see enough value in a little more acceleration over the AWD for $20k. But maybe it’s worth it. Bottom line is we wanted it today, not tomorrow.

I need to point out we’ve never had an electric vehicle so see this AWD as wicked fast as it is.

My wife’s 99 year-old uncle lived with us the last 9 months of his life. He was hoping to be around to see the CyberTruck once he found out we ordered one. Unfortunately, he died in 2020. Sometimes getting something a little sooner may be the better option as you get older.
So let’s say they Beasts are released in Dec. you waited 4.5 yrs. You couldnt bite the bullet and wait another 6 months?
 

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Get what you want, can afford, meets your use case, makes you happy. Who cares what others bought / want / did / will do.! We're on this forum to talk about the Cyber Truck - both versions, because it's a bad ass tech marvel and a transformational vehicle! Have a good day!
 

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Oh and it lacks a locking rear differential
How is a continuously active software based rear differential worse than a manually selected mechanical one? Beast gives you the benefits of a locking diff on any surface. One wheel losing traction does not impact the other.

The only possible advantage I can see is if you needed the entire torque output of the AWD rear motor delivered to one wheel, and the wheel was somehow able to apply that much force to the ground (is that even possible?).
 

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If some idiot going the other way isn't racing yellow going red to get through.

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So let’s say they Beasts are released in Dec. you waited 4.5 yrs. You couldnt bite the bullet and wait another 6 months?
December is the month I assumed we would receive one if ordering a Beast. If we wanted a Beast bad enough, yes, we could have waited. I just weighed all the variables and decided to move forward with the AWD. For additional context, I’m in my mid-60s; our first EV; I consider the AWD acceleration as impressively quick; and feel like it’s the better value even though we could have easily afforded the Beast. That being said, if the Beast were available on the same timeline as the AWD, we may have spent the extra money anyway. Not sure. So I guess the timeline was most important to us. More so than waiting on the extra approximately one second of acceleration. (And while we can afford it, is it really worth the extra $20k? That’s a personal choice.) But I fully understand your point.

If you don’t mind my asking, when did you get your Beast? If you were one of the lucky folks that got an early one then this may not have been a decision you had to make. (Meaning, it may not have been clear when you ordered that Beast would eventually be harder to come by.) But I know there are a lot of folks who have decided to wait on it, so assume you would have too. And I understand that point as well as wanting it now instead of later.

Let’s say there was no Beast. Would you buy an AWD? If yes, why?

Also curious if you’d have waited for certain other features if you were told they would have been available 6 months later. For example, would you have waited for an additional 20 miles of range? What about 30 miles of range? Different people may have different things that are important to them.

Editing to point out the range on the AWD is roughly 20 miles longer. For some people this may in fact be more important once a minimum acceleration threshold is met (meaning, the AWD acceleration is fantastic, AND you get an extra 20 miles; vs. 20 miles less range but even more fantastic acceleration).
 
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So I received my truck about a week ago and have been driving it in "chill" mode this entire time. Tonight a passenger wanted to see how fast it was so I decided to put it in sport to test. I didn't expect much because I know mine was the slower truck, but this thing was brutal, it literally threw us back in our seats and my passenger lost grip of her phone and it landed on the back seat.

I've driven 4 second 0-60 cars before and this felt way faster than any of them. Is Tesla under reporting the dual motor 0-60 to sell more beasts? It feels so unsafe to have that much speed on public roads, I can't imagine the beast being much faster than that. As it is I'm probably never putting my truck in sport mode again.
great, now you got me wanting the beast lol
 

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I haven’t received my Beast yet. I switched to Grey interior so I’m one of the Oct-Dec deliveries. The range was never an issue for me. I don’t plan on driving it 300 miles a day, so I will just plug it in at night when I sleep. I never fully understood the whole issue with the miles, unless you are taking a road trip I’m assuming. We don’t do road trips, so was never an issue. And my initial reservation was for the Tri-Motor. Even when they released the price increase my wife still was in board for the Cyberbeast. (Even considering she’s buying it for me) So I find it quite strange that a female is on board and excited about all the extra power, but then there’s guys in here saying it’s too much power? Maybe because I used to drive sport bikes, it won’t phase me as much?
Okay, my bad. For some reason I thought you already had one.

With regard to range: We originally placed the order because of the 500 mile range. We’re retired and take a lot of road trips to see grandkids and travel at large. Prior to this product, we weren’t interested in an EV because we weren’t sure if it’d work out very well with the infrastructure, etc. All the other stuff was just cream on top of that at the time. (But we definitely wanted the extra cream; we ordered the tri-motor as well, lol.)

Fast forward to the actual vehicle spec announcement right before the rollout. We were disappointed by the much lower range. However, the more we looked at the Supercharger network, the more we realized that a 500 mile range would likely not be a necessity anyway. Additionally, we’d gotten used to stopping in between gas stops for bathroom break, eating, etc. And we just found the truck too enticing to not pursue. And yes, the sports-car-quickness was part of the attraction. I guess you could say we eventually decided the cream alone was a reason to buy, lol. But to be clear, to a certain extent, range still matters to us.

I’ll bet driving sports bikes was a lot of fun, and may explain your more enhanced need for top acceleration and speed. That being said, speed is an attraction to me as well. At least to a point. And I’m not going to say I wouldn’t like the extra quickness of a Beast (directly to your point). But I know I’m very happy with the AWD speed as well (coming from a Volvo XC-90), so am willing to trade the extra acceleration to get the vehicle a little sooner and with a little more range. But I wouldn’t have traded it for a single motor version that is slower. I guess you could say the AWD exceeds my minimum maximum speed requirement. So was able to check that box without spending the extra money. Not to ramble, and I know I sound a little wishy-washy, but in spite of my comments, I may have bitten on the Beast instead if it was available immediately. Not sure. But now having the AWD, the quickness is absolutely awesome to me. So I’m glad we went with it in the end.

Nice that your wife shares your need for speed. I‘m really happy for you both that you’re getting a Beast! Sounds like you‘re gonna love it, and is perfect for you.
 

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So much misinformation on this board….
  • How can one call the awd “insanely fast” when practically every other ev truck has the same quickness or better? More apropos to say “insanely mediocre”
  • The beast does have the ability to lock the rear diffs via the motors so that “lack of rear diffs” argument is DOA…
  • Range difference between the 2 trims is less than 20 miles…hardly significant….If you want to tow an rv or heavy load you’ll likely need the range extender—neither the awd or tm will get you very far without it.
 

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Is it just me, or did the Beast look like it started a split second before the AWD? Not saying it wasn’t gonna beat it anyway, but on the AWD it almost seemed like the accelerator was pressed after the Beast started.
 


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I don't understand all the debate over AWD vs. Beast. They are both great trucks and more capable and versatile than most people who haven't driven them realize.

Two things you need to know about owning trucks:

1) They are not life-long mates and,

2) Trucks don't demand that you remain monogamous.

Just get one of each, when the timing is right, and be done with it. It is not an either/or situation!

This debate is similar to Ford fanboys having a heated debate over whether to get a Raptor with the High Output 3.5L EcoBoost V6 or the Supercharged 5.2L V-8; it's six of one, half-a-dozen of the other. And it really doesn't matter much because both are crappy, weak, unreliable and ineffective compared to modern electric drivetrains.

I have a need for speed, and the AWD satisfies me. It can't even come close to putting all the power down when I'm off-road. On road, it still has that telepathic magic where it puts you where you want to be, when you want to be there. It's plenty fast even to someone like me who appreciates as much power as the tires can put to the pavement.

I was hoping my wife would pick the Cyberbeast, and she does like the cool laser-etched Beast emblem, but she says she needs the range for pulling her two-horse trailer. So, it looks like we will have two DM's before we get our first Cyberbeast. It doesn't matter, I'm not a 5-year old on Christmas Morning anymore, I don't need it right away.

The best part is I already have a Cybertruck in my sweaty little palms. Remember. it's not a life-long commitment.
 
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Quit trying to hype up your AWD and compare it to the Beast. Let’s keep it real. Everybody that ordered the AWD over the Beast saying “They didn’t need all that extra power” is bullshit. Man up and just say you didn’t have the extra $20k to spend and we’ll respect you guys more.
From this comment, it sounds more like the beast buyers have something they need to compensate for. Lol at least this way you can say being quick is a good thing!

Too bad about that new Rivian. Second place isn't bad though.

But in reality, not everyone wants/needs the quickness, 20k to move quicker with very little other actual benefits could be viewed as just spending to spend. It doesn't make you better ?
 

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You drive 300+ miles a day that you can’t plug it in at night to charge? How isn’t not the fastest truck? Name one faster.
Belittle values? What values am I belittling? You go off on a tangent on trying to justify why you bought the slower/less powerful cybertruck then try to tell me I’m belittling your values? Only reason people haven’t called you out on not buying The Beast is because they haven’t been released in the masses yet.You basically bought the station wagon of Cyber trucks
Yes, regularly… Whether it’s skiing and mountaineering in the winter or fly fishing, camping, and climbing in the summer, I frequently do day trips and weekend trips into the mountains/backcountry where access to electricity let alone L2+ chargers is nonexistent. The extra range opens up a lot more possibilities in destination as well as duration of any given trip.

To the topic at hand, this entire thread was made by OP to acknowledge that the AWD is no slouch even though it is “slower” than the Beast. For some reason you took offense to that and have been brigading the thread by tearing down anyone who says something positive about the AWD. To this day (three months in), not one person has asked me if it was a Beast nor has anyone “called me out” for buying an AWD. Even if they had, it would not have affected me in the slightest because I was early enough in line that I could have had either by now and chose the one I wanted without any limiting parameters in the decision making process. If the Beast had more range, I would have gone that route, simple as that. When you get to a certain point in life, you start doing what you want to do because you want to do it/it’s the best for you and not because of what others will think.

At the end of the day, 0-60 times are just a fleeting high to me. I’ve driven and owned purpose built race cars that would leave the Beast on the line and never look back but the rush of driving those cars comes from way beyond low-end, straight-line acceleration. If I really wanted to chase that dragon I’d buy another actual race car or look at something like a Plaid, Roadtser, Nevera, or the like that can do a lot more than be quick to a speed below most highway speed limits. Still I know from experience that something else will come along (likely in short order) and my time on the mountain top will come to an end. If you take delivery of a Beast in Q4, your time as king of the “fastest truck” hill will be measured in weeks if at all (assuming the R1TQ does not arrive earlier than expected).

All this to say do what you want because you want to do it but don’t throw shade on others for having different aspirations/needs than yourself. Plenty of people actively chose the AWD over the Beast because it was simply the better truck for them. Ultimately, depending on the use case(s), the AWD is an objectively better truck than the Beast.
 

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So much misinformation on this board….
  • How can one call the awd “insanely fast” when practically every other ev truck has the same quickness or better? More apropos to say “insanely mediocre”
  • The beast does have the ability to lock the rear diffs via the motors so that “lack of rear diffs” argument is DOA…
  • Range difference between the 2 trims is less than 20 miles…hardly significant….If you want to tow an rv or heavy load you’ll likely need the range extender—neither the awd or tm will get you very far without it.
In the pool of total trucks how many go 0-60 that quick? 5? By definition that can't be mediocre
 
 








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